Sagitta Wrote: I watched Legacy recently and during the games Clu seemed to be controlling some of Rinzler's moves while toying with those two balls in his hands during the disc battle.

We've debated before what the balls in Clu's hands were. Final consensus that I believe most agreed on was that they were controlling the gravity in the arena, not Rinz himself. Although it certainly appears that way.

Here are a couple (old) threads on same:
-"What was Clu playing with during the disk battle?": http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?a=top&id=394931
-"Clu's orbs": http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?a=top&id=402611

Sagitta Wrote:Apart from the games I do wonder if Tron was allowed to keep at least some of his battle prowess since he was Clu's chief enforcer.

Yes, absolutely. Notice when he fights Quorra later on. I'm sure Clu kept the fighting skills-- he just wiped everything else blank.

Sagitta Wrote:Also, Rinzler did seem to recall bare basics such as what a user was.

I always assumed that Rinz knowing what a user was wasn't so much a memory as, Clu probably programmed him that way. Clu would have wanted to know when there was another user on the system-- whether it was something he created for Rinz first thing, or just after he sent the page and actively expected another user to show up. In Sam's case, it was just dumb luck that Rinz made him as a user-- if he hadn't had the telltale bleeding, he would've been toast before anyone figured out what was going on. What Clu may have instructed Rinz to do when he found a user, we can't be sure-- but my guess is that he was to bring the user (suspected user, whatever) to Clu.

The only thing I can't figure out is why Clu would have done that at all. My guess is that he would have been very careful to keep Rinz away from users, period-- especially since our conjecture here is that it may have been Alan he expected to show up (hence his question to Sam: "oh, so it's just you?"). NO WAY would he take the chance that Tronzler would meet up with his own user; even if he had no idea that something as simple as seeing someone like Flynn would convert Rinz, letting him anywhere near Alan is an obvious mistake. But I suppose he probably kept Rinz on a tight rein and just gave him those instructions on the off chance he DID find a user-- he just perhaps didn't expect it to happen in a context where he himself wasn't right there.

Sagitta Wrote:I have to wonder if one of the discs Rinzler had was actually his...but it had been reprogrammed and the second disc was to keep the captured and brainwashed Tron in-line. But his original disc would have needed to be present for him to remember Kevin when they made eye-contact and help him shake off whatever Clu had done. Without it I would think Rinzler would have been a "blank slate" (a stray had he been on the streets) memory-wise and not be able to remember at all.

Remember that when Rinz meets up with Flynn, he has NO discs. Both of them were lost in the fight with Sam and Quorra. Hence my speculation-- the discs kept him Rinzler, and when he didn't have them anymore, he could revert to Tron with the right catalyst (or perhaps enough time, but we'll never know).

Screenshots showing his lack of discs:
Here is the scene when Clu first shows up and learns the users got away (Rinz is in bottom left corner):
http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=153458#top_display_media

and the "YMCA" scene (he's to Clu's immediate right):
http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=153472#top_display_media

And the last time we see him, after he's fallen into the Sea of Simulation, just before his circuitry color resets:
http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=153648#top_display_media