KingJ.exe Wrote:I thought it would be beneficial to see if we can list all the unresolved plot threads that Uprising has all of two episodes to resolve, if the show gets cancelled. Add ones I forget, and remember, massive spoiler warnings here, these came from the end of certain episodes. Plot number 1: Pavel. He's still plotting, that's evident. What form will his plans take now that he's in charge of Purgos? Plot number 2: The Weapon. It's now in Tessler's hands, where it was intended all along. What does that mean for our heroes? Plot number 3: The Mega-Reco. What on the Grid is Dyson planning to do with that? Does CLU have anything to do with it? Plot number 4: Paige. We know she's going to become a good guy. How? When? What will she do when she learns the truth about her past? Plot number 5: The Stranger. This is set to be resolved in the next episode. Plot number 6: Gorn. Will she turn? Will she get her face fixed? Plot number 7: Cutler. When's he coming back with recruits for Beck? Or is he ever coming back? Is he just going to start uprisings elsewhere throughout the grid? Plot number 8: Bartik and Hopper. When do they turn to the good side? We know they do from Legacy. How does THAT come about? We haven't really seen them since "The Reward", where Hopper was accused of being the Renegade. Any more?

I can answer about The Weapon. That will probably be used unwillingly against The Stranger. It can't be in Tesler's hands forever.

On Paige, either she discovers it via Tesler's memory banks or someone else will provide evidence; most likely Beck.

Cutler. He might show up again to save Beck's a$$ in the last minute.

Mega-Reco. I have to raise this question of logic. Why in the hell would CLU want a top secret vehicle be built near Argon when he could've done so in Tron City? I think this vehicle would be the equivalent to a Super Fortress bomber plane, probably with wider scanning capabilities and shoot down Tesler's mother craft, in case they have an official spat.

KingJ.exe Wrote:Plot number 4: Paige. We know she's going to become a good guy. How? When? What will she do when she learns the truth about her past?

On this one, and I've said this before, but I think that she has to turn in the final episode. It seems to me that having her be the first major addition to the resistance would fit perfectly into how they have set her up. Beck had a huge initiating factor for why he became the Renegade, the murder of his friend. Paige has this too...she just doesn't know it yet. Once she does, Beck has the experience to draw on that will allow him to relate to her, and hopefully bring her to his side.

Although I knew this show wouldn't last long, I can't help but feel depressed at losing such a great animated series. Haven't seen one this good since the Batman Animated Series.

I wonder how Disney will cover the unresolved plots. Shame it was only one season

Sagitta Wrote: Pilgrim1099 Wrote:Uprising takes place right around 1989 when Flynn got trapped and CLU started his occupying run. Now, the Uprising did NOT end and continued up until its mention in Legacy at the End of Line Club with Bartik. So, the question is was Bartik the only survivor from Argon City while everyone in Uprising got derezzed? This is something to think about. And how long did the Uprising last? If this is the case, does it mean Beck is still alive in Argon with Paige? And with Gorn's 'rictus' smile that keeps her silent, is this a foreshadowing of how Tron/Rinzler does'nt have the ability to talk except a few words and a purr? Apparently the series takes place after Clu has just about the entire Grid under his tyrannical grip. I doubt something such as this would have happened overnight. Remember, around the time when Flynn had gotten trapped the ISO wars would have been in the beginning stages as well. From what we saw in "Scars" the betrayal also occurred originally in Tron City (I'm assuming, though I could be wrong) and that's quite aways from Argon. It was never actually stated when Tron arrived on the outlands of Argon either (seeing as how that was the last free city on the Grid before Tesler came to lay claim on it in the name of Clu2 within the first episode.) I know there was a short story about Bartik rescuing Hopper that was released in a magazine shortly before Legacy came out. Don't know much of it only that it's where Bartik was scarred. In Legacy Tron does actually speak two sentences. At the beginning he identifies Sam as "User". And near the end when he betrays Clu2 and aids Flynn & Co. in their escape he's heard stating "I fight for the Users." Granted, it's not his normal voice. But that could either be due to his helm...or some other type of damage. If Tron was fated with the "rictus smile" I doubt he would have been able to talk at all.

I understand all that, yes. However, the last time Flynn went into the server was in 1989 which is when he disappeared overnight, never to return to his house. I'll bet you that was the night when CLU finally pulled a 'coup' on him and Tron.

Now, Sam did'nt find his father until 20 years later. My point was that did Tron come across Beck a couple years AFTER Flynn's disappearance? Ten years? How much did time dilate between the first Renegade and up til Beck, or rather when Tron becomes Rinzler?

It's clear to me that the first Uprising with Cyrus failed. Then Beck came along and the Uprising seemed to have continued on until Legacy. Therefore, this tells me that CLU was never able to clamp down on it until Sam arrived.

So, we need to think about what happens to the Uprising once Clu re-integrated with Flynn that caused an explosion, a la MCP style. And if an MCP can be revived, so can Flynn/CLU.

Right now, at this point in Uprising, Flynn is probably still young and not growing a beard yet and Sam is still a kid. And Flynn talked about pushing CLU and they got pushed back harder. It sounds like Flynn was part of the Uprising as well.

It's really a question of at what point of the timeline of Uprising are we looking at? If I'm not mistaken, this has to be during 1989 or the early 1990s.

Look at Legacy. No mention of Tesler, Hopper, Paige, Pavel, Able, Dyson (especially him since he was CLU's prominent right hand man), and Beck.

The other big discrepancy I noticed in The Stranger is when Cyrus was imprisoned. Did you guys ever think about how got imprisoned in this manner? Tron could'nt leave his healing chamber that far away to do this as this would've taken extraordinary amounts of energy and effort to lock him away.

I suspect Flynn had a hand in it, BUT if that were the case in the Uprising show, this would hugely contradict Legacy as the 'coup' was the last time Flynn saw Tron alive. Either way, Tron had help locking this guy away.

anonymouspunk89 Wrote:Well I look at it like this, the reason Beck or most of the other Uprising characters weren't mentioned is because they weren't probably even thought of when they were writing the story for Legacy. I honestly can't say when Uprising was being created so I can't say that with 100% certainty, but that's what is seems like for me. It's like Star Wars the Force Unleashed, where we introduce a whole bunch of new characters that become integral (I guess is the right word) to the mythology, but they aren't mentioned in the later films at all. It doesn't mean that they're dead, because there's a couple of expanded universe tales that feature the TFU characters.

This. Or rather, the producers didn't want to interfere with Uprising (and vice versa, since they threw Uprising in a "far-off corner of the Grid"), so they purposefully didn't mention Beck, Tessler, Pavel, Paige, etc. Doesnt mean they're dead (Bartik was obviously alive and well), and doesn't mean we won't see them later.

Updated with info from the most recent episode, and I removed the thread about Gorn, you guys convinced me that she was... "Collateral damage."

It looks like we still have the same amount of dangling threads. This better be one HECK of a finale.

1982program Wrote:At least the most recent episode answered who helped imprison Cyrus. So, one plot point resolved....about 1000 to go.

I don't think we'll get answers to most of these in the finale. I've reconciled myself to that. At this point, I'm hoping that with the series just starting in Japan now, there'll be interest in bringing everyone back together for a feature-length animated movie finale that'll wrap everything up a la Firefly/Serenity.