ChessMess Wrote: Do programs age? Well they get revised, and so I guess that is form of aging. Programs often start slick and lean and over time as more and more 'features' are added they get slower and become 'bloated', which kinda resembles the human process.

Haha, I never thought of it that way. Like a program "middle age spread." Maybe that's how you become an inoperative data pusher.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

DV8ER Wrote:In the Tron 2.0 game the programs that became bloated like that were called resource hogs. They are big programs and they would stand near a wall and draw energy from it heh. -D

In addition, they also show I-No, who happens to be the old program that helps out Jet. There's a good chance that programs may age (as we get with I-No), but since the game is not a part of the canon of the films, the only other example of programs aging is Dumont, the I/O Tower Guardian. Now, you're probably thinking, "But Dumont's old because of his programmer." Not necessarily. Remember, Dumont told Stark, "I remember the MCP when it was just a chess program." (much like his creator does). So, unless it was only a couple of years prior to the events of TRON, everything suggests that Dumont was in the Encom servers for quite a while.

But, the thing we have to keep in mind is this: Since Quorra is in our world, her body would have to follow the same rules and limitations as us. I say this because if you think about it, you can't throw an ID Disc in the same manner as you can on the Grid, because the disc would act like a normal frisbee, and would fall to the ground due to gravity. We know that Users going into the system are susceptible to the rules of the Grid (as we've seen in T:L during the Sam and Rinzler Disc-Battle, in which as we see, when the gravity shifted, Sam's body abided, both times). So, if a human user's existence on the Grid abides by rules of the Grid, then Quorra's existence has to abide by the rules of the real world. That includes having to age. Any living thing ages in the real world. The moment she came out of the system.

The best counter argument for the above is this: Kevin Flynn was on the Grid for 20 years and still aged, while Quorra and everyone else remained the same. Since he was human and aged in our world, logic dictates that since Quorra is a program and hasn't aged over the 20 years, that even in our world, she shouldn't.

The point is there's a lot of details that backs up both possibilities. And we won't really know until the next film.

If it takes another two decades to get a squeal, then yes she will age... if they start filming this year, then she'll look like she did when she came out to the real world!

I agree with Argent. It will be an unbelievable task. Although it made for a cool and beautiful final scene for her to see the sun and see them riding down the road, I wish they had figured out a plot or ending that didn't involve a program entering the real world. Way too much pseudoscience to figure out or speculate on now. Tron isn't meant to be Weird Science. I hope Tron 3 reveals that for her construct to remain intact, she needs to quickly get back into the computer. After seeing the real world firsthand, she can help build a beautiful computer world inside the computer. Not one that looks and acts like the real world... Just more colorful and beautiful than TL's world.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pill

Abraxas V Wrote:Wouldn't a triple helix just double your chance for DNA imperfections? I can't see the benefit.........

Normal DNA, probably. But you have to remember something: Quorra has digital DNA. That's the thing about Quorra and the ISOs: there are no imperfections in the DNA. If there was, why would Flynn say that with their DNA, disease would be history if their DNA was just as flawed as ours?order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pill

Kat Wrote:Maybe because it's easily repaired? Or maybe he simply has no idea. I doubt the guy's a biologist on top of everything else. I mean, every single Iso ever created is absolutely perfect?

It'd make a lot of sense as to why Flynn stopped trying to make "the perfect system" if you actually think about it. Because he found perfection with the "naturally" grown, DNA-Perfected ISOs within the flawed system.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online

Argent Wrote: CB2001 Wrote: Abraxas V Wrote:Wouldn't a triple helix just double your chance for DNA imperfections? I can't see the benefit......... Normal DNA, probably. But you have to remember something: Quorra has digital DNA. That's the thing about Quorra and the ISOs: there are no imperfections in the DNA. If there was, why would Flynn say that with their DNA, disease would be history if their DNA was just as flawed as ours? The possibilities of their root code, their "digital DNA" -- Disease? History! Science, philosophy, every idea man has ever had about the universe, up for grabs. Biodigital jazz, man. To be honest, I think mentioning 'disease' there was a misstep on the part of the writers. Obviously the idea was to impress the audience with how important Quorra was supposed to be. Maybe they felt having the ISO's 'just' revolutionize science and philosophy would be too esoteric for some viewers, so they decided to throw in something a little more meat-and-potatoes that they thought everyone could relate to - they'd represent the end to disease! Unfortunately, when you start tossing grand statements like that into a script, you really need to work out the details, and I don't feel the writers cared enough to bother. Quorra was important because Flynn said she was, and we're supposed to take that on faith. The same with programs being able to enter the real world at all. Nevermind the mechanics of it, Clu 'found a way', Flynn said so, and that should be enough for the audience. To me, that's just lazy writing.

I wonder if they were trying to tie in things like the stem cell research issue. Because with Betrayal, I definitely felt there was some deeper delving into issues that could parallel many current real-world issues (overpopulation/population control, immigration, xenophobia, the list goes on), I think both to illustrate that the digital and real worlds are not so different, and to make the reader consider what s/he really thought about those issues. Maybe somebody told them "hey, it doesn't have to be ALL fluff just because it's a film" and they made a half-assed effort?
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I think Darth has something going there:

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