If CLU was de-rezzed in TRON, how is he the antagonist in TRON: LEGACY?

So didnt you see Flynn create Clu again in Tron: Legacy?
And it is Clu 2.0 in Tron: Legacy and Clu 1.0 in original Tron.

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DrP Wrote:We have to remember that for the super hardcore fans that have seen the movie 1,000 times some of these things are taken for granted. I have to admit that if you are not VERY familiar with the original Tron plot and characters it can be difficult to connect it to the characters of T:L. Clu v1.0 was minor character in the first movie that got about 45 seconds of screen time before being derezzed so that's one thing to remember. The part about Flynn's basement computer not being connected to the internet is taken to be cannon by the fans but was never truly made clear in the movie... also how did the page to Alan go out if it's not at least connected by modem to a phone line? And don't get me started on how 90% of the average movie goes didn't get that Rinzler was Tron. I guess what I'm saying is that I am not surprissed that many people who have seen the original only once or a few times may not get the character transitions (or different characters played by the same actor) from first and 2nd movies.

Actually, I got the idea even having only a rudimentary knowledge of OT when I saw T:L (my partner dragged me to the movies before I could fulfill my stated wish of seeing OT first). *and* I couldn't believe I was so unobservant as to not figure out Rinz = Tron right away (since we got plenty of exposition to the circuitry design from Sam's action figure and the betrayal flashback scene).

Then again, months later in a discussion about the two films, my partner-- who admitted to being a fan as a kid-- had to be reminded that Clu made an appearance in OT, so...


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Has anyone thought that each copy of the "Flynn OS" out there, may come with it's own little Clu running the show?

Edit: Though it would be nicer to think that since Flynn and Clu merged, every copy of Flynn OS is actually the vehicle for the spirit of the new, re-integrated Flynn Flynn could now be closer than ever to being a "god" spread throughout countless systems.

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Zenith Wrote:Has anyone thought that each copy of the "Flynn OS" out there, may come with it's own little Clu running the show? Edit: Though it would be nicer to think that since Flynn and Clu merged, every copy of Flynn OS is actually the vehicle for the spirit of the new, re-integrated Flynn Flynn could now be closer than ever to being a "god" spread throughout countless systems. lol I'll go away now

Greetings, Zenith:

I respectfully disagree - why would Kevin Flynn sell copies of his own personal system admin with his OS? Especially when there were all possible indications (and yes, I know there were some discrepancies in the TRON: THE BETRAYAL graphic novel, and I know that the events in Betrayal took place before Legacy) that CLU 2.0 and the system CLU 2 presided over were a secret to ENCOM??? Maybe Alan knew something, and maybe Roy "RAM" Kleingberg knew something, but I'm sure Kevin took steps to make sure the rest of ENCOM didn't know anything, hence Flynn's private server not being connected to the internet or to the ENCOM server. Kevin fought like hell to prove that Dillinger Sr. stole his work, and I doubt he'd let himself get into a situation where they could steal again, if he could help it.

Computer experts, correct me if I'm wrong on this - to me, CLU 2.0 was software that was native to Kevin's private server, and wouldn't have been part of the ENCOM server, or part of any software that Kevin would have released during his tenure as CEO of ENCOM. We don't really know if CLU 2 would have been included in the releases of FLYNN OS V 1-11, but we definitely know that whatever the original Flynn OS blueprint was, it was surely not going to be a part of V12, as was emphatically spelled out during the boardroom scene in Legacy, especially when Alan brought up the issue:

ALAN
With the prices we charge for schools, and the prices we charge students, what sort of improvements have been made with Flynn- I mean, ENCOM OS 12???

RICHARD MACKEY
Well this year, we put a twelve on the box.

ED DILLINGER JR.
ENCOM OS 12 is the most secure operating system out there. The idea of sharing, or giving our software away for free disappeared with Kevin Flynn.

As far as Flynn and CLU 2.0 merging, correct me if I wrong, but Flynn and CLU 2 didn't merge until the end of the film, and again, the copy of ENCOM OS 12 (aka the co-opted FLYNN OS) was pretty much a Kevin Flynnless release. That's why Sam pulled the pranks he did, because it was a repeat of what happened in the first TRON film - ENCOM again stealing and taking credit for something they didn't really create.

Respectfully,

RenegadeProgram

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Yeah having thought about it again, it does seem unlikely that Flynn would have included a copy of Clu with Flynn OS, given the nature of how Clu came into being.

Clu was part of Flynn's unique personal experiment, and ummm... forked... off of Flynn, so yes I'd agree with you that the idea of multiple Clus out there is very unlikely

and yes, it was fanciful thinking.. I didn't think too hard about that idea