Yes Jediunit. Trace is right on that one. We all have our own opinion. There is no real right or wrong answer to these. to you you might find that it is not ahead of its time. While people like myself. (And I don't know about trace. She can correct me on this.) Find that it is ahead of its time. We can agree to disagree on things like this without getting to each other throats on it.

Oooh, a paper on Tron! If you write it, you'll have to put it on the web for all us fanatics to enjoy!

Don't feel like reading everything right this min, so hopefully this wasn't stated above.

I'm going to school for game design right now and we did a brief little discussion on the Tron Arcade game. I noticed everyone was saying how the movie made money, even if not a huge amount. But the game was the first Movie to Game crossover AND it actually out grossed the movie the same year it came out. That I must say is kick ass.

All this info is probably above, but this is the 'cliff notes' for people who are leaving for work and have no time to read all threads

lol Love that line.

Anyways, umm... yeah. What ProgramBASIC said was all true. Just don't let any SW buffs hear you say that. They are quite protective of their world. Not to speak ill of SW fans out there. I love the SW movies, but I'm not one of these huge huge fans who dresses up and camps out in line to see a movie. The way I see it, both were creative in their own right. As to who was more creative, it's a matter of opinion. As to which was more ahead of it's time, I think we all know the answer to that. At least Lisberger hasn't gone back and "digitally enhanced" Tron, unlike some others I can think of.

Oh man, I have no clue what to say at the moment.
*Sketch looks over at his boxed starwars figures*
I was bitten by the bug when I was younger. I have noo room to talk.
Still love the movies. I still think making R2D2 able to fly was kinda overdoing it for the poor little feller. I'm not going to arguee about which one is better. Both movies were made by great visionaries. Both use the same good vs evil story line that all stories use. Both had a different effect on the audeince when it was realesed.
I don't know what else to really say...
This thread feels like it's turning sour.

JediUnit,

I was just pointing TRON's cash ($$$) as matter of fact and mere subject of a talk-talk topic like this --- in my book it could have fruited just 30 dollars at the box office: neither I would have cared about it neither it would have change the fact it's a *Visionary masterpiece*. Catch it, rebel Conscript?

The STAR WARS (the original ones) are very well-done and quite interesting, but they are not visionary masterworks, I'm sorry. There is not that enchanted "great deal of fantasy" behind them you always heard of. I mean, they blend up elements from about 456.ooo sci-fi books released before 1977. Trust in me.

You can call "visionary masterworks" the MAD MAX MOVIES, especially THUNDERDOME. They created a new micro-universe, a new philosophy, a VISION. Granted, there were about 456.000 post-apocalyptic books and movies before the MM Trilogy (I'm a MM nuts, and collect every post-apocalyptic movie or book, so I know what I'm talkin' about) but there wasn't NOTHING like the MAD MAX trilogy before the TRILOGY itself. So much fro the history. George Miller, a gianteous genius, pushed it all towards a new frontier.
There was *NOTHING* like TRON before 1982 too... and even AFTER, there was NOTHING like that. Still today.

The SWs are highly enetertaining (PHANTOM MENACE apart, one of the worst movies ever produced, despite the final Jedi confrontation) ... and deserve to be successful. But they are nothing of truly special.

Don't get me wrong.

Blade Runner is actually one of my favorite movies. I like it better than the book, but John Brunner can be kind of a boring writer.

I think TRON was ahead of it's time. That doesn't mean it was made before it could have been made, just that is was made before the general understanding and acceptance of the "masses".

Trace lowers the disk she had aimed at ProgramBASIC's head.

Well, that "forgive me" came just in time. ProgramBASIC, you've got to let other people have their own opinions. You made it sound as if JediUnit was wrong in what he thought. There simply is no right or wrong when it comes to viewing Tron as a "masterpiece" or not. Personally, it's my favorite film, but as a writer, I could rip the story structure to shreds. And the character development is weak, too. It's not a perfect film, but I would definitely call it ground-breaking.

Please remember, you may enjoy debating, but not everyone does. Just take it easy on your fellow programs, k?

Previously posted by Mowerman: "I think TRON was ahead of it's time. That doesn't mean it was made before it could have been made, just that is was made before the general understanding and acceptance of the "masses."

Totally agree. That's a great way to put it!

I've noticed that about SW as well. I guess it's because it's so heavely advertised. No telling how much advertising there'll be when the when Episode 3 comes out. I've been a fan of star wars and lately have become kinda numb to the franchise and newer movies. Sometimes movies can go too far with franchising.

The figures I have are not the old 70's ones, just the regular late 90's ones. Got a few still in their package, but got a ton outta the package. Got Xwing, Millinium Falcon, and a few playsets. I had a big idea to do a star wars parody with a friend using the figures. It fell through. It was fun trying to do regular stop motion with a RCA cam corder.
Funny, legos worked the best for stop motion cause the stars wars figures always required putty on their feet to keep them in place. Plus legos made set design easy.

That's alotta figures.
The only thing I think I have to call a collection is my small robot collection. It's nothing much, just toy robots that I really like. I love robot designs.
That would be awsome if I could afford an actual life size B9 Lost in Space Robot or mabey an Terminator endoskeleton. Of chourse I'm only dreaming.