Yo tron-sectoids. I just caught on the telly [BBC2, had no idea it was on] and it got me thinking...

Is the film in real time?? By real time, I mean time passes as it would in the real world. I was thinking this as I watched the solar sailer grace the sea of simulation skies. Someone here once asserted that the solar sailer is like a file attachment, being sent via that energy beam carrying a cuople programs - how ever many it can carry at one time.



Now this got me thinking, it doesn't take that long for my email attachments to reach their destination, so maybe the film is slowed down to view the story.

But games are in real time, we can see the guys at the opening of the film playing lightcycles against sark, who must be in real time.



Most of the other activites apart from I/O contact and video games could relate to the way real systems work, not in real time. therefore do Flynn's adventures in the ENCOM system add up to only 5mins? I dunno -- just a muse, anyone think otherwise I'd like to hear...??

Don't they allude to the fact that time passes more quickly in the computer world in the Tron 2.0 GBA game?

Plus in the movie we see Flynn pass out for a while. How long was he out? We're not sure how much time passed there.

I feel that time would pass "slower" in the computer world.... meaning that you could digitize yourself and come back out in what seemed like 40 years to find that only a fraction of time had passed.

You, of course, would be exactly the same as when you were digitized.

Could be an effective means of travelling into the future, given there is anyone there to pull you out when you want to be extracted.

Compucore Wrote: IN the digital world I think its mainly in Cycles. For every so many cycles. is equivilant to xx number of seconds or fractions of a second.

i'm quoting this from Harpo on TU. i think he made it up, but it seems to fit quite well [if you read this, harpo and you didn't make it up. i stand corrected.], the curved brackets are his estimated conversions for telling time in role, and the square brackets are what i think they would roughly compare to in the real world.anyway, here:

Nanocycle = 2 seconds [0.0000045454545454545 seconds]
Millicycle = 50 Nanocycles (1.5 minutes) [0.0002227272727... seconds]
Minicycle = 80 Millicycles (two hours) [0.01818181818... seconds]
Microcycle = 11 Minicycles (one day) [0.0909090909090... seconds]
Standard Cycle = 100 Microcycles [probably one second in the real world]

Prankster bit Wrote: Compucore Wrote: IN the digital world I think its mainly in Cycles. For every so many cycles. is equivilant to xx number of seconds or fractions of a second. i'm quoting this from Harpo on TU. i think he made it up, but it seems to fit quite well [if you read this, harpo and you didn't make it up. i stand corrected.], the curved brackets are his estimated conversions for telling time in role, and the square brackets are what i think they would roughly compare to in the real world.anyway, here: Nanocycle = 2 seconds [0.0000045454545454545 seconds] Millicycle = 50 Nanocycles (1.5 minutes) [0.0002227272727... seconds] Minicycle = 80 Millicycles (two hours) [0.01818181818... seconds] Microcycle = 11 Minicycles (one day) [0.0909090909090... seconds] Standard Cycle = 100 Microcycles [probably one second in the real world]

That doesn't add up with evidence presented in Tron 2.0. For example, a program says that Romie was "so young, so many cycles left." Last time I checked, programs usually remain installed longer than a matter of seconds.

Another thing, if one second in the real world is 100 days in the digital world, that means that in the original Tron, Alan gave Tron the command and data to destroy the MCP at what is for all intents and purposes, the exact same moment Flynn was digitized! It's strange Alan didn't mention anything about plans to destroy the MCP.

And with this time scale, can you imagine what it would be like for programs if someone left a computer unattended? They would be left for millions of years just running the same routines. I can't imagine any intelligent life not going insane after being put through that. I can accept time going faster in the digital world, but that rate is way too fast.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

Boingo_Buzzard Wrote: Don't they allude to the fact that time passes more quickly in the computer world in the Tron 2.0 GBA game? Plus in the movie we see Flynn pass out for a while. How long was he out? We're not sure how much time passed there. I feel that time would pass "slower" in the computer world.... meaning that you could digitize yourself and come back out in what seemed like 40 years to find that only a fraction of time had passed. You, of course, would be exactly the same as when you were digitized. Could be an effective means of travelling into the future, given there is anyone there to pull you out when you want to be extracted.

This sorta reminds me of Einstein's theory of relativety (or at least i think this was it..... it was the time-travaly one I'm thinking of here. User! I'm so bad today! ^^;; ) where if you were in space, time would pass by a little slower to ther point that you're actually going back in time 9I think you can go back as far as either 3 mins or 3 secs) while on Earth, time would pass normally So the person in space would be younger than the person on earth.

So I'm thinking that this would be a very similar scenario to that of digitization.

~Kamui.EXE

foilism Wrote:just watched some more of the movie with this in mind and I acme to the bit where Flynn is 'hacking' using crom in his tank. he's communicating through the text right - so how comes crom seems to be in real time there?? i don't get it.

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Masybe he may be communicating to Flyn Via the communication console that was of to the side just before he sits down in th main seat there to drive the tank or fire the cannon.

Prankster bit Wrote: foilism Wrote:just watched some more of the movie with this in mind and I acme to the bit where Flynn is 'hacking' using crom in his tank. he's communicating through the text right - so how comes crom seems to be in real time there?? i don't get it. maybe the digital world can change speeds, like a cd drive.

Ahh, but we're forgetting one key line from the movie. Ram says to Crom: "Hey, what's going on in the other sectors? I've been stuck in this Grid for 200 microcycles now."

So, it sounds like 200 microcycles is a fairly long time for them. There's still no knowing how long this is in relation to their entire life-span... but does this help at all?

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