It may be a little early to advocate for this but I would absolutely love to see TRON in High Definition, and though I haven't heard anything recently I expect BVHV is planning a Blu-Ray release of it soon.



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...well, the format wars seems to be "over" considering the other studios are trying to get out of their HD-DVD exclusive contracts after one studio announced that they were going Blu-ray.

I'm pretty sure Disney will do this eventually with Tron considering they've been releasing movies on Blu-ray anyway.

KiaPurity Wrote:...well, the format wars seems to be "over" considering the other studios are trying to get out of their HD-DVD exclusive contracts after one studio announced that they were going Blu-ray.

I dunno. I don't think the fight is over quite yet. HD-DVD players are cheaper than their Blu-Ray equivalents, and HD-DVD releases tend to have better extras.

But yeah, it was dealt a blow by Warner switching to Blu-Ray only. We'll find out for sure if the war is over, in a few months.

Seriously, yeah, DVD is still going strong right now. No worries about having to stalk blu-ray or hd-dvd right now.

Ditto.

DVD completely owns Blu-Ray/PS3 ( Couldn't resist) and HD-DVD. Plus, you don't have to have a gigantic 700 whatever inch plasma flatscreen high-def fancypants HD TV to watch DVDs.

With an upconvert player I already Have watched Tron in HD.

I have compared HD-DVD to DVD.
And with an upconvert DVD player...
There is NO NEED for HD-DVD.

So save Yourselves A few Dollars!

ometiklan Wrote:With an upconvert player I already Have watched Tron in HD. I have compared HD-DVD to DVD. And with an upconvert DVD player... There is NO NEED for HD-DVD. So save Yourselves A few Dollars!

LOL, you can't justice by watching an upscaled dvd!

If you want i can post a dvd/hd-dvd comparions i did
on Mad Max 2 and see for yourself.

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lurkinghorror Wrote:I can't help but view both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD as dead tech. The future is intangible media. This is, in my opinion, just a final stab at consumers of physical media on the parts of the studios.

Wasn't Blu-Ray just adopted by several companies as their HD standard? And by intangible, do you mean downloads?

I wouldn't mind seeing a HD version of Tron, but it would have to be cleaned up some.

TronFAQ Wrote: What about reliability? Can the service providers guarantee 100% uptime 24/7? No, of course they can't. So what if on an afternoon on the weekend a family felt like watching a movie, but the video on demand service was down? Wouldn't have that problem with a disc, would you?

Well, that plus you'd have to sit there and have it download instead of popping in a disc and watching it. Download speeds for HD quality movies would have to become almost instantaneous or people would get too frustrated having to wait for the media to download to them.

TronFAQ Wrote:Well, I'm one of those people who still want physical media. I don't want to have to rely on some service in the cloud in order to listen to music or watch a movie. That puts the publishers and distributors fully in control. It's actually a step backwards in the evolution of computers and digital media, as far as I'm concerned.

I would agree with you about a download as you go type service. But intangible media does not automatically imply the type of service you suggest. If I buy a download from iTunes, I own that copy. Once purchased, I can watch it when and where I want. Yes, download sites can have interrupts in service. But stores can run out of stock. In short, I'm not in favor of something like Apple TV's new Divx player like offering. I buy a digital copy, it should be something i can store on a local hard drive and play with multiple devices/operating sytems/programs.

A good example of this is the digital offering of SLG. We set up a system here you can buy a DRM free copy of a comic. After the purchase, no connection or service or specific program is required for use.

Furthermore, you have to consider the inbuilt limitations of physical media that mirror some current limitations of digital offerings. A friend bought a very high end Sony DVD player. The thing is so proprietary based, some store bought disks won't play on it.

Boingo_Buzzard Wrote: Well, that plus you'd have to sit there and have it download instead of popping in a disc and watching it. Download speeds for HD quality movies would have to become almost instantaneous or people would get too frustrated having to wait for the media to download to them.

So you just download it before you need it. How is that more time consuming than going out to the store to buy the physical copy?

TheReelTodd Wrote: I wonder how long it will take for things to get to the point where people no longer feel the need to own a physical copy of something like a movie.

A big step in this is affordable and reliable digital storage. A 500gb drive now costs about $120. Give it 10 more years? We'll have 500 terabyte drives for the same price, if not cheaper. And by then, a generation of adult shoppers that grew up with intangible media. Perception is key here, and time and familiarity will alter perception considerably.

TheReelTodd Wrote:On the second point - I've heard that mentioned before in that same context. Those little imperfections that were not as noticeable in regular DVD format are now becoming more noticeable. I'm not sure why they were more overlooked on the big screen, other than the fact that maybe people are less likely to see them in that particular type of presentation for whatever reason.

I think HD can be neat on some modern films, particularly animated computer generated. But if you have a chance, check out the blue scalp on (if I recall correctly) Bruce Willis in Die Hard, or the awesome spaceship shot in The Thing that is now much more obviously a matte painting.

TronFAQ Wrote: True. But reps from the media companies have made it clear they don't want that. If they had their way, you'd be paying a fee every time you want to play a song or a movie. You would no longer be able to own your own personal copy.

I still think we're talking about two different things. The quote (and link) you provide is about making copies. Not about purchasing legally available downloads.

The difference is: when you go to a store, you would expect them to sometimes be out of stock.

I don't know if you've ever worked retail, but my experience as both a seller of items and as a buyer is completely the opposite of your assessment. The amount of rage a percentage of customers feel when an advertised item runs out of stock... It's not pretty and it's not uncommon.

Technology breaks down. You might have the weekend with your family, all set to watch a movie, popcorn made, and the DVD skips. The TV dies. the DVD player dies. The surround sound conks out. The download service is interrupted. The power goes out. Any of these things can (and frequently do) interrupt the best of our plans. As it is right now, reliability is no better or worse in any format.

That said, I do not favor a download as you go type service. and I was never discussing a monthly fee based service. When I want to watch something via download, I typically plan ahead by several hours and make a one time purchase. The way my system is set up, I can watch the video on any one of three televisions or three computers without ever making a copy. Additionally, I can also store it on my ipod (legal use of the download) and take it with me to a friends house and watch it on any TV with the right connection.

TronFAQ Wrote:What's to stop them from charging for every time you listen?

Customer participation. If a company chooses to release material in a difficult to use manner, people can choose not to participate. I know I don't bother with material released exclusively in formats that disinterest me. Look what happened with Divx. How many people are going to be willing to pay every time they want to listen to a song? All that will happen is that piracy will skyrocket. The fact is, the burden is currently on the manufacturers of entertainment. Not the consumers. For consumers, things have never been better and they will only go up from here.