I was a huge fan of the original film – it’s probably one of my favorite movies of all time. I was also a huge fan of the soundtrack and the work of Wendy Carlos.

Now, I don’t want to take away from the absolutely superb work done by Daft Punk on Tron Legacy – but as I was watching the movie last week, it felt like something was missing – and I think it was that there really were no elements at all of the theme used in the original Tron.

I think there was absolutely an opportunity to include elements of the original theme in some form or fashion.

Curious to know – anyone else feel the same way, or did it not make a difference in your mind?

I just bought the soundtrack a couple of days ago, and have been listening to it regularly. Love the upbeat stuff, and the orchestral stuff is nicely atmospheric and moody. A few parts have a real Vangelis feel to them--I wonder if they were consciously making musical references to him, just as there were some visual references to Blade Runner (I'm thinking mostly of the cityscape appearance and the monolithic appearance of the arena, which reminded me of the Tyrell HQ in Blade Runner). My only complaint would be that the tracks are all so short. If only tracks like Derezzed and the End Titles were 4 or 5 minutes long ...

An even better comparison would be Peter Gabriel's scores. Passion, his album containing music for the film The Last Temptation of Christ, was released a year after the film because he continued to work on it as an album after the film's release.

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Will do a detailed review of the sountracks soon.

I of course like the Daft Punk version, being a techno musician.

BAM Bam BAM Bam BAM...
BAM Bam BAM Bam BAM...
(distorted kick drum

Also, note - there is a LOT of Blade Runner influence on that soundtrack too.

Anybody knows if they had help with the Orchestra writing? and who did it?


my choice for soundtrack 3: APHEX TWIN! Let's bring it.
He can also cameo as the MCP or something ;-)
(see video for "Come to Daddy")


but WENDY MUST RETURN also ;-)
As I said in my review, it's like apples to oranges.

toasteroven Wrote:So, having seen the movie several times now, and having the soundtrack virtually memorized, I've noticed there's some differences and some omissions. And this soundtrack is so good, I'd love to see them all released eventually. 1. First, obviously, is the voiceover of "The Grid" includes young Sam in the film. Personally, I'd love to have a version without the narration in addition to that one. 2. The beginning of "Recognizer" is different in the film - there's some drums that start up as soon as Sam comes out of Flynn's on the Grid. 3. The drum sequence as they head to the lightcycle arena. 4. Subtle drums in the sequence in the recognizer at the arena as the programs and Sam are assigned "Rectifier" or "Games". And on a personal note, I'd love to hear "The Fall" without that screeching metal sound ingrained in the track. I think it's one of the best orchestrations in the film, and the background noise Daft stuck in there is a little much. I sure hope Daft Punk at least gets nominated. The score is fantastic. Anyone else notice anything different?

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toasteroven Wrote: And on a personal note, I'd love to hear "The Fall" without that screeching metal sound ingrained in the track. I think it's one of the best orchestrations in the film, and the background noise Daft stuck in there is a little much.

Bite yo tongue, boy. That 'screeching metal sound' is a Daft Punk signature sound. It's a nod to the fans from their Homework era. That aside, I think it adds to the anxiousness of the scene. It woudln't have been complete without it.

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toasteroven Wrote: 1. First, obviously, is the voiceover of "The Grid" includes young Sam in the film. Personally, I'd love to have a version without the narration in addition to that one.

Yes, same here. I love Legacy's soundtrack to no end, but Bridge's voice in that track always makes me skip that song.

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I think it would have been nifty to see some of the old score in the new, yes. But not a requirement. The old score is, face it, sort of dated, which is fine and to see someone upgrade it might be interesting. But that may have been beyond DP's talent or interest, or perhaps Disney didn't want it for some reason, or perhaps even Wendy Carlos said no. The film itself bears very little resemblance to OT, so I don't think a score that bears very little resemblance to the original score is off-base.


I will say, though, that I feel like the CD presentation seems cheap. The graphics are great, the booklet inside is great.... the case itself is cardboard that doesn't hold the booklet securely and doesn't even stay closed on its own. I took the CD out and put it in a different, more-sturdy case, and the original case sits on a shelf so it doesn't get wrecked-- because it would, the first time I decided to, say, toss it in a bag and take it somewhere.

BigbadMCP Wrote: Tron Unit Wrote:It's a movie soundtrack so the tracks are scored as "cues" meaning they are scored to the duration of the scene for which they are composed. This is what differentiates a a motion picture score from a traditional album. Oh, I realize that. But some soundtracks have longer versions of pieces that are in the movie (namely, John Williams scores). It would have been nice to have a few extended cuts of some of the tracks, kind of like an extended dance remix.

There is a longer cut of End of Line out there attributed to Daft Punk. And there are a lot of good remixes, IMO (some of them well better than the ones that made the remix album, IMO). There was a period of a couple days I spent hours sifting through remixes of a couple of my favorites that folks had posted on Youtube (I was cleaning up the apartment so the background music was good. I just loaded a bunch and played them one after another). I came away with several I liked; I have probably 8-10 remixes of End of Line that I culled out of a bunch (more than I can recall to count; I had to have listened to at least 30) that I wasn't impressed with, for example.

(It's worth it also to note that some of this stuff is not all that similar to the originals, or might be what you didn't have in mind for the original, but I found on a couple that if I stopped trying to listen to it as a remix of X song and instead just listened to it as music, I did like it for what it was even if I didn't like it in the context of being a remix of X song.)

Boba Fettuccini Wrote:My favorite thing about the whole album though was the CD. Opaque black plastic. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

Yeah, our Mac Mini wouldn't even read it. I had to take it to work, rip it onto a regular CD, and bring it back so I could get it onto iTunes (and thus, onto the iPod).

toasteroven Wrote:1. First, obviously, is the voiceover of "The Grid" includes young Sam in the film. Personally, I'd love to have a version without the narration in addition to that one.

Yes, me too. Just not willing to carry my geek cred that far when listening to it publicly... I might get away with the soundtrack-- no one would probably recognize it (and anyone who did would be just as guilty of geekiness as I so I wouldn't care), but the voiceover makes it really obvious. (Well, plus I generally am not into sticking movie voiceovers into soundtracks anyway, nor do I usually like any sort of vocals in my electronica.)

VJFranzK Wrote:Anybody knows if they had help with the Orchestra writing? and who did it?

My CD jacket shows "Music arranged and orchestrated by Joseph Trapenese" and "'Adagio for Tron' arranged by Toby Chu and Joseph Trapanese" and "Scoring Editor: David Channing" and "Orchestration Consultant: Bruce Broughton."

As I've stated before, I don't know what this means. Personally as a composer I would insist on orchestrating every single piece I wrote myself, or I'd feel like I didn't completely write it. However, I imagine it could mean everything from "DP orchestrated it themselves for the most part and just got a few suggestions" to "they brought a few basic themes and the people who actually orchestrated it were the ones who really filled it out," which in my mind would mean those people would get as much of the credit as DP does.

Orchestration makes a big difference, as I'm sure you've realized if you listen to the tracks carefully and noted some of the subtle stuff (it really works with music once you start taking it apart and listening for all the different parts). And it sure as hell isn't easy (I struggle with it myself, in large part because I find it difficult to have enough patience to experiment with all of the possibilities).

^^ Hmm, now that you mention it, I see it clearly. Or hear it, rather. It may not be coincidence that after watching TRON as a kid, I grew up loving 80's synth-pop and then 90's sportbike motorcycles, recreating the allure of the light cycle. I still enjoy both, especially the music.

To be honest, at first, Legacy's soundtrack didn't remind me of the eighties--which may be because the IMAX audio was pummeling me into my chair. At home now, though, I would say "The Son of Flynn" is the poignant retro-modern favorite. In the film, it heralds the arrival of Sam to adulthood, riding a motorcycle as fast as he can away from his past. It reminds me of listening to Depeche Mode's 101 cassette in my helmet as I rode to and from the Grand Canyon back in the '91.

And I'm only 39, so neener-neener.