I always thought that the first movie's point was that the Programs had them! It was a religious war that everyone was fighting after all, the determination of if the system would honor its creators, or turn against them. The scene in the I/O tower was a bonna-fide religious experience, complete with prayers, rituals, and benediction.

The pain comes from the fact that the creators are ignorant.

I hazard a guess that they are something that is both and neither, something that straddles the line of Program and User.

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I believe the Iso's were created as a by-product of how Flynn created CLU which is that he basicly copied and pasted himself onto the Grid. He taught the grid how to make humans and the Grid improved on the design. So yes they have souls just as program do.

The jury is out on whether anything or anyone has a "soul" but that's a whole lifetime of discussions by itself. maybe a better question is whether the chicken in your dinner, or the silverback gorilla in your local zoo has a soul.

I'm more of the opinion that the ISOs can be explained by emergence theory. Basically, the system got to the point where individualized consciousness came into existence as a natural consequence of the overall complexity of Kevin's programming. Best analogy would be individual ants that behave as a semi-conscious whole, but are really no more than a bunch of simple little units... until you look at how the group behaves as a whole. brain cells are similar. Individually very stupid, but but them in a group and recognizable a consciousness emerges.

Complexity begets what we think of as consciousness, so multiply that many times over and you get spontaneous creations like the ISOs.

If in real life, they can find DNA-like fragments in space debris, then the self-creation of the ISOs is hardly incomprehensible.

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Crockett297 Wrote: A soul yearns for knowing. The programs don't care about knowing anything other than their primitive functionalities.

How do we know this? I don't recall seeing it stated in either film.

I'm not sure how you guys are going to feel about my take . . . but I do want to put it out there.

I always sort of interpreted ISO's as the Grid's form of a human. What I mean is that an ISO is the code made whenever a user is transfered to the computer world. ISO's are basically the Grid's answer to making a human. The Grid was altered and left to evolve long enough that it tried to mimic Flynn and his interactions, but they are still programs though.

Flynn needs to be turned into a "Program" version of himself to work on the grid, so ISO's are alot like a user's "program", if that makes any sense.

So, addressing the question, I don't think ISO's have a soul because they aren't biological life-forms, but they have a conciousness and are the closest approximation to humans the Grid can make without an actual user or digitizing lazer being used.

Its even a silly concept for humans to have something mystical called a soul, which serves no purpose.

In the past people would go.. something must be there that makes us who we are... fast forward to 21st century: what function of the brain you're interested in? We can figure out what kind of electrochemical reaction causes it we want.