Not sure what you're asking..

I believe the Baton is supposed to be able to create any object that is "installed" into it, whether it be the light katana, lightcycle, or jet.

When Clu takes Rinzler's baton, it loads up Rinzler's light jet because that is the light jet program installed to that baton.

Does that clear things up a bit? I was having some trouble understanding what you were asking.

I wish i had a baton with the light cycle program installed into it..
i would ride it around the city like every night. Hell yes I would.

Its more why the batons form custom vechicals, like Clu's.

Like why the first two form Clu's own vechicals but Rinzler's forms Rinzler's when Clu uses it.

Do the batons know their user, which means they are all the same?
Or do they just form the same type of vechicals everytime, so Clu has his own batons?

I know they can form both jets and cycles.

ChessMess Wrote:I view batons as 'usb memory sticks' for programs.

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Kat Wrote:But the problem, as stated, is this: in the cycle game, Clu's baton forms Clu's cycle. Clu's other baton forms Sam's cycle-- which, as another program tells him, isn't as fast as the cycles of Clu and his guards. And it would seem that they didn't take one of Clu's batons and program it as a conscript cycle, because the one Sam took seems to be entirely arbitrary (we could, I suppose, assume that the other baton was programmed as conscript cycle and Jarvis just held the box in a way so that Sam would be most likely to take that one, but I don't think they thought about it that far). So that would assume that the vehicle forms according to who's using the baton. However, later Rinzler's baton forms up Rinzler's jet for Clu-- which would assume that the vehicle forms according to who the baton belongs to, as opposed to forming according to who's using it at the moment. if the two jived, then either Sam's baton would form Clu's cycle, or Rinzler's baton would form Clu's jet. But the way they had it, it's contradictory.

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Who's to say that the vehicles don't have defaults and can be changed, if desired, during rezzing. Kind of like how your computer came with a default wallpaper but you changed it when you got around to it.

Clu's cycle batons are special, meant for 1vs1 battle and thus could automatically rez to the color of the user. Afterall, the other programs already had batons and they were just typical low level cycle batons.

Sams Cycle, if you watch, actually outruns one of the higher level programs cycle. Thus I suspect Clu's baton set were matched and both rezzed the highest level cycle. Clu's arrogance made him feel that he could beat this user, especially since he beat a user before and this user had never even played the game before, easy kill.

Rinzlers baton was defaulted to his color, ala default wallpaper on a computer, and Clu was too focused on getting to the portal to even bother with such a trivial default change.

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Sam's cycle design did indeed match the other conscripts', right? It did not resemble Clu's.

And if Sam outran someone else, it could just be a difference in skill. If you know how to handle your vehicle, then you can outmaneuver someone else who may not be as good at it (for example, you may be better with how to corner it and may not need to slow down so much on corners, which may negate any lesser speed your vehicle has. The same can be said if you know how to handle the gears most efficiently, if you're driving a manual transmission [and this can be a BIG difference, as you know if you've ever driven a vehicle with such a transmission]). It's also possible Sam's just plain willing to take more risks with speed, maneuvers, etc. He's pissed, he wants to succeed, he figures he might as well go all-out because if he doesn't give it his best try, he'll get killed anyway. The guard may be a bit more concerned with saving his own bacon.


I don't even mind so much if the universe doesn't follow hard-and-fast programming rules as long as there are rules for the universe that are followed and consistent. Why give Sam one of Clu's batons, when it would be just as easy and make more sense to hand him a random baton and say "here you go, conscript baton" (and it would drive home, as well, the throwback to T82 where the conscripts are told outright that their training will be lacking-- when Sam's teammate tells him "their cycles are faster than ours" then you realize that yet again the conscripts are set up for failure, but they wouldn't have been amiss to drive it home more by having someone tell Sam outright that his cycle is substandard). I suppose it could have been Clu's intention to give Sam good equipment and see what he was made of-- who knows what his intentions may have been for Sam if Q hadn't rescued him; he may not have planned to kill Sam but just take him captive, or try to turn him to his own side, or maybe even try rectification on a user, but of course we'll never know because they don't even remotely hint at that.

Another one of those things that makes me think "they had to have done it that way intentionally otherwise they could've done it a different way that makes more sense" but with no results to show what the intention may have been (the film had a lot of those moments). I have to think it made sense in *somebody's* head but unfortunately they forgot to share their reasoning with the audience, so it all just looks arbitrary and addled.

Imbroglio Wrote: RenegadeProgram Wrote:. Maybe some Disney execs thought a certain segment of the viewing audience would feel alienated if computer terminology and concepts were thrown into the dialogue and into how the Grid works - that would be weird, since we supposedly live in a digital age. The computer jargon and use of technology is part of what made TRON so innovative and acheived cult status. When a computer literates in the 80s called themselves "users" they were sometimes scoffed at due to the "user" connotation of that era meaning drug addict. I still remember a segement on Donahue where a woman who was a programmer said she was a "user" and Phil looked at her in bewilderment as he couldn't believe some junkie would admit that on national t.v.

is the problem, yes, though I've made my feelings on that clear enough multiple times so you all can probably say it with me now.

Of course, if they were to make it accurate to the "digital age" now, we'd have that Zuckerburg (or whoever) kid instead of Sam, who'd be toting Tron around on his iPad and putting him to work running his Twitter feed... the whole plot would be about him rezzing in to get digital revenge on some guy who stole pictures of his girlfriend making the duckface pose and put them on Reddit with snarky captions (all done in 'netspeak) alongside some lolcat pics.
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