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Moses613
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Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Friday, April, 27, 2012 8:46 PM
The only person I can think she would be hiding it from would eb Flynn himself, but why? And it is indeed hidden, not just in the drawer but the book itself.

I know this is really opening a huge can of worms as far as what's behind it and why, but I still say Sam's meeting Gem was no mere chance. Out of all the programs in Tron City? Come on. I think, if what I am saying is true, that the drink coaster and her sending Sam to Tron City had something to do with him being found so fast by Gem and ending up at the EOL club. But why would Quorra have done so? To smoke out Castor? I am afraid this one is a little over my head.

Then you have to wonder why Sam didn't just spray paint in day-glow letters on the side of Flynn's light cycle the words I AM THE SON OF KEVIN FLYNN AND I AM DRIVING AROUND TRON CITY IN THIS, HIS LIGHT CYCLE, IN CASE YOU FAILED TO NOTICE. And how did he get that thing across the outlands? It'd be like driving a Honda Gold Wing over a dirt bike stunt track. And I don't even want to think about what the Black Guard did to that poor bum Sam pawned the bike off to.


 
Kat
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Friday, April, 27, 2012 9:36 PM
Yes, of course Gem found him on purpose. Not entirely sure how-- maybe something about what Q gave him; perhaps it can be detected when it's in the city or something. But it's very obvious she was sent to meet him-- "you're looking for someone" and then she takes him right to the club.

(What I never understood is why he's so nonchalant about meeting up with her. If I were elaborately trying to disguise myself and the first person I saw-- someone who I know works for the very dude I don't want to know I'm there-- recognized me immediately, I'd run, not get involved in some casual small talk.)


As to why Q hides it-- who knows. Many reasons could be. Everything from "she sometimes sneaks into the city when she isn't supposed to and maybe in fact acquired this recently" to "she doesn't want Flynn to know she still thinks a lot about living a real social life" to "Flynn doesn't approve of clubs" to 'she knows there may be something dangerous about it but wants to keep it anyway" to "she's using it as a bookmark" (if she's anything like me and just grabs whatever's closest to hold her page).


As to why Q sends him-- because she obviously still trusts Zustor and thinks he's still a good guy. She has no idea what she's sending Sam into-- she tells him about Zuse with complete trust, and she later tells Flynn "I sent him to someone we can trust." I doubt she was being untruthful either time.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

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Disc Warrior
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Friday, April, 27, 2012 9:47 PM
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Rectify
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Friday, April, 27, 2012 10:09 PM
Quorra responds to Sam's question about "who am I supposed to find [in TRON city]" with something like, "just get there, and he'll find you." I think it was just a plot device to get Sam out of the sanctuary. No deeper meaning implied. Sam should definitely have been more careful approaching the city ... he just wanders for a second, then chats up the nearest siren, out in the open and everything. I'm certain Castor knew about Sam's arrival ... Gem says to Castor when they first arrive to the club ... "I brought your boy Flynn," implying that Castor was already aware of Sam's existence. And yes, I don't think the line is, "I brought you the boy of Flynn."

Same thing with Quorra's "sector key." It wasn't hidden from anyone, but the audience needed to know it was an object of some importance, so we see her retrieve it from the book. People in the real world keep things in books: money, letters, flowers, etc. Doesn't mean they're trying to hide them, it's just a place to store things out of sight.

You're absolutely right about the poor bum who took the lightcycle. Sam is all, "it's your lucky day ..." Yeah, sure, guy gets jumped by Guard cops the first block he rides down. Now he's been derezzed for sure. Thanks Sam.

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Kat
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 12:03 AM
Another interesting thing about Sam/Gem in the club scene-- she very deliberately (or so it seems to me) keeps him on her arm as they're walking through the club.

My guess is that she's known there and wanted to make it very clear that "he's with me." Not sure why-- whether some programs might have recognized him from the Games, or maybe him being outfitted in conscript clothing would have made him stand out (esp. if it's the usual thing that conscripts simply do not survive the Games, so you wouldn't see someone dressed like that on the street). She didn't want him messed with.-- not sure if it was meant to be a signal to the other clubgoers or to those of Clu's guards who were there.order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pillabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

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ISOlatedThinker
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 1:15 AM
I think it's because she doesn't want Flynn to know she has connections to anyone in the city. After all, if he found that he would probably destroy it..breaking the last ties she has to Zuse(whom she still believed was good), and Quorra doesn't want that to happen..

..Just my interpretation.


 
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 2:32 AM
Moses613 Wrote:Then you have to wonder why Sam didn't just spray paint in day-glow letters on the side of Flynn's light cycle the words I AM THE SON OF KEVIN FLYNN AND I AM DRIVING AROUND TRON CITY IN THIS, HIS LIGHT CYCLE, IN CASE YOU FAILED TO NOTICE. And how did he get that thing across the outlands? It'd be like driving a Honda Gold Wing over a dirt bike stunt track. And I don't even want to think about what the Black Guard did to that poor bum Sam pawned the bike off to.

I don't know how he got it across the Outlands, but you're right about the letters thing. Using that cycle to get back to the city was about the same as making a glowing sign above his head that says: HEY CLU! IT'S ME, SAM FLYNN! COME AND FIND ME!!!

Not the smartest move on Sam's part.


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WiseHacker
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 2:57 AM
This is why I still prefer the original Tron over Legacy - there are more holes in its plot that Sark's Carrier after it has been derezzed.


 
EXODUS
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 6:44 AM
I thought that that hexagonal-thing she gave him was a MAP showing him how to get to the End of Line Club (bearing in mind that it's his first time to The Grid, so having a MAP to get around would be pretty handy).

When Sam shouts out his name after being defeated by Rinzler in the Gaming Arena, you'll notice that the audience goes quiet upon hearing this (and Rinzler looks at him has if to say "What?").
Add to that the little speech that Clu gives to Jarvis to say right at the start of the Lightcycle game in front of that HUGE audience AND when you consider the fact that there were THOUSANDS of people in those stadiums I would imagine it wouldn't take long for news to spread throughout the City (and eventually to the Club, and Castor,who I would imagine would try and use it to his own advatage-I like to imagine him standing in his Club and discreetly listening to all the quiet conversations being discussed by the other programs/customers there (many of whom were probably at the Gaming Grid when it happened) and when the words "Sam Flynn" and "User" start croping up he silently thinks to himself "Hhmm....this sounds interesting, I must keep an eye out for him....").
Also, I personally think that Gem WASN'T delibertly searching for Sam in the cold, wet dark (and slightly dangerous looking) streets. It obivous that she knows Castor, and by the looks of it she's been there quite often (she just walks straight in with just a nod from the doorman).
I think her meeting Sam there WAS somewhat conicedental-after a hard days work at the Arena she heads towards the Club to unwind, sees Sam heading there too and pretty much thinks to herself "Oh! Hello! What are you doing here? And why would a wanted fugitive and exile with a bounty on his head risk life & limb to come to a densly populated city like this just to have a drink in THIS particular club? You must be hear for a VERY important reason..." and then puts 2 and 2 together right there and then.

And has to why he took Flynn's Lightcycle, I think it's down to simple plot development:

When you look at it there were only two vehicles in Flynn's place (his Lighcycle & the Runner) so Sam would only have just three options to get to the club-the Cycle, the Runner or just walking.
He couldn't walk there because it was just too far for him to walk (bearing in mind his only got just a few hours left, so he would have to get there quickly....).
HOWEVER, he could have taken the Lightrunner instead-it's fast, and can move around the city with the minimum of suspicon (because there's many other similar vehicles like that around, which might help him blend into the background a bit).

BUT, if he DID take the Runner that would mean that Flynn & Q would then have to take the Lighcycle instead when they go to rescue him, which is a problem when you consider it was only designed for one person (and it's got a closed canopy, so he cant even sit behind her because it would be too cramped).
And if only ONE of them had ridden out to get him the story might have taken a completly differnat direction from then on....

That, I think, is the reason why he took the bike.

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Kat
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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 12:25 PM
I dunno, I still think she found him on purpose. She says "you're looking for someone" and he says "what makes you say that?" and she says something like "it was a hunch" in a significant tone that suggests it was anything BUT random.

If Zustor was going to send someone to find him (or perhaps he sent out several people and she was just the one who happened to find him first), it would probably make sense to send out the one person he would recognize (as opposed to just having some random dudes grab him on the street). Probably also doesn't hurt that she's "hot" and Zustor rightly predicted that would make Sam let his guard down, which is the only explanation I can come up with for him trusting her-- unless he really had so much faith in Quorra that he would believe (immediately and without question) that someone who works for Clu might be a turncoat, just because she appears to be associated with someone Q said she knew long ago and could trust back then.

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RE: Why is Quorra's drink coaster from the EOL club hidden in a book in her drawer?

on Sunday, April, 29, 2012 5:23 PM
Hey, if I suddenly found myself in a computer, I'd take any leads I could get. There's no time for cynicism when you're binary code.

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