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![]() Posts: 218 | Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Thursday, May, 17, 2012 10:00 AM
Flynn's server could not have been isolated from public networks, at least not totally isolated. Without some kind of connection, CLU would not have been able to send Alan a page.
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 Posts: 45 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Thursday, May, 17, 2012 2:37 PM
True, but sending out a 9 digit number via pager waves is VASTLY different than connecting to say, the internet. It owuld be like saying your FM Radio is connected to the internet because you can here it anywhere you drive.
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 Posts: 4,349 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Thursday, May, 17, 2012 3:07 PM
emdeesee Wrote:Flynn's server could not have been isolated from public networks, at least not totally isolated. Without some kind of connection, CLU would not have been able to send Alan a page. |
Actually, this was covered in the ARG. The arcade was hooked up to an old defunct phone line which was used by Flynn Lives operatives to send a "circuit pulse" through, which caused the portal within the grid to open up, thus allowing CLU to send the page through the defunct phone line.
       
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 Posts: 399 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Thursday, May, 17, 2012 3:08 PM
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 Posts: 248 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Thursday, May, 17, 2012 3:19 PM
I noticed that, too. I used to do tech support for pagers, so I have an idea on how they work. You need access to the phone lines to send a page, so where did Clu score a modem?
The key in the door for the secret lab is also shiny - if it had been there since 89, it would have been heavily tarnished. I'm wondering if there wasn't someone on the other side of the screen who had a vested interest in keeping Flynn locked up or dead, or if Clu had some "friends on the other side" *cough* Dillinger *cough* order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion
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 Posts: 45 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Thursday, May, 17, 2012 6:28 PM
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![]() Posts: 274 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Friday, May, 18, 2012 4:21 PM
I'm a locksmith, so I can say with certainty that keys (especially that kind) are all made from brass. They may b e nickel plated, but they're made of brass. If this key was not nickel plated, then it's brass surface would have been exposed and, consequently, tarnished badly. This would not have affected the strength or usefulness of the key though.
Some computers back in '87 were hooked up to phone lines through their clunky, extremely slow modems, the kind you actually set the phone receiver on. That was nothing unusual at all. In fact they used such modems in the making of Tron. So Flynn's computer may have also been hooked up to such a line. And keep in mind my previous postulation that Flynn, anticipating the worst, probably set up a trust-most likely administered by Alan)-to keep the power and phone lines on at the arcade even if Alan had no real idea why.
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 Posts: 2,395 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Friday, May, 18, 2012 10:30 PM
The question is... if the line was truly disconnected (and you would think Alan would know, unless for some reason the line was as secret as the office and Alan just assumed it was disconnected because he thought he had disconnected all the phone lines*), THEN how did Clu get through? Especially since in 20 years, the number probably would have been reassigned several times.
*But: he recognized the number, so he must've been familiar with the line and knew it existed. I wouldn't put it past him to also keep that particular line open (after all, he's still sleeping with the pager, which would be pointless if the number he expected to hear from no longer was hooked up to the place he expected to hear from-- it'd be like waiting for an email from an account you know you closed: why bother?) but he does indeed state it's disconnected, and I doubt he was lying about that just to create intrigue that might draw Sam out.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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 Posts: 1,945 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Sunday, May, 20, 2012 3:11 AM
I am not sure if Alan knew about the secret office or number..
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 Posts: 573 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Sunday, May, 20, 2012 6:49 AM
I think this was actually mentioned in Betrayal.
Flynn (with his increasing concerns for his pregnant wife) actually built a hand-held telephone thing, and left it with his wife with a note telling her to phone a number on the note if she needs to contact him.
(Which she does when she goes into labour. Whilst on The Grid he gets a message from her-which appears on the palm of his hand, glowing-and rushes off to the hospital, much to Clu's profound interest).
It still doesn't explain how Clu got Alan's number though....:-P
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 Posts: 606 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Sunday, May, 20, 2012 10:44 AM
EXODUS Wrote:I think this was actually mentioned in Betrayal.
Flynn (with his increasing concerns for his pregnant wife) actually built a hand-held telephone thing, and left it with his wife with a note telling her to phone a number on the note if she needs to contact him.
(Which she does when she goes into labour. Whilst on The Grid he gets a message from her-which appears on the palm of his hand, glowing-and rushes off to the hospital, much to Clu's profound interest).
It still doesn't explain how Clu got Alan's number though....:-P |
That's exactly right. I have the issue and remember the scene. I suspect CLU made a phone call to Flynn's wife, pretending to be her husband acting as if he lost Alan's number and needing it again. In a way, that handheld phone is more like a pager and dials directly into Flynn's server, almost like a secret second phone line he added to his account. |
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![]() Posts: 549 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Sunday, May, 20, 2012 2:53 PM
Well, Alan said the number was from "Flynn's office at the Arcade." Before we find out about the hidden lab, to me, I thought the office that Alan was referring to was the iconic Flynn's office area near his upstairs apartment (where we saw him hacking into Encom and inserted CLU 1.0 in the first film). To me, I think that's the office that Alan was referring to, because it's clear that Alan had no idea about Flynn's secret lab and the Grid he was working on and has been to Flynn's Arcade and has probably seen the upstairs office. However, what he didn't know was that Flynn may have attached an additional phone line to his office line so he could run a phone down to the lab in case someone needed to reach him in the real world (which is sort of backed up in the comic) and has it attached to the Grid's computer system but giving it limited access to the phone line (which he could have used to bring additional programs in from Encom's server without having to draw attention to himself by doing the Sneakernet method. Basically, it's sort of line it is now with the internet. Which would be simpler: Going to a computer at a physical location with a transferrable medium to be able to download files or accessing the same computer via online and copying the files straight to your computer? The answer is the latter). So, there's a good chance Flynn accessed the Encom servers to transfer copies programs and files onto the Grid and keep his project a secret.
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 Posts: 2,395 | RE: Flynn's Grid Server (Today I realized...) on Sunday, May, 20, 2012 5:42 PM
EXODUS Wrote:I think this was actually mentioned in Betrayal.
Flynn (with his increasing concerns for his pregnant wife) actually built a hand-held telephone thing, and left it with his wife with a note telling her to phone a number on the note if she needs to contact him.
(Which she does when she goes into labour. Whilst on The Grid he gets a message from her-which appears on the palm of his hand, glowing-and rushes off to the hospital, much to Clu's profound interest).
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I didn't think it was glowing on his hand...I just went back and looked at that part. Something goes "beep" and I assume he's got something along the lines of the pager, that he is looking at in his hand.
EXODUS Wrote:It still doesn't explain how Clu got Alan's number though....:-P |
Easy. Flynn had it, and Clu may've had it too.. Now, we know Flynn gave Alan a pager. We don't know how it works. It could be Flynn had something he would use to page Alan with in case there was trouble, which Clu then got ahold of. It may be that he gave *Clu* something that Clu could use to contact Alan in case something happened to Flynn. Or perhaps they both had something. I mean, if you're that worried something will happen to you and you take precautions, then you'll probably also assume that something so bad might happen that you'll be unable to contact help yourself, so you'll ask someone you trust to be able to do so as well (like giving your neighbor a key to your house, or telling your boss who to contact in case of an emergency). For all we know, Tron also had some way to contact Alan (but obviously he never would've been able to use it).order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill What do you want? I'm busy.
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