|emdeesee Wrote:An interesting idea, Argent, but I'm not sure it helps alleviate the questions that are raised by the potential of a material Quorra. To me, it seems just about as troubling...
It would require the digitazation system to "rewire" Sam's brain to provide the "virtual machine" within which Quorra would run, then booting Quorra into that machine. Then the virtual machine in Sam's brain has to function in such a way as to make Sam experience coherent hallucinations. And when you get past all that, you still have all the same problems about existence in the digital world vs. the "real" world.
This, as opposed to "simply" running the "rebuild Sam Flynn" program.
It need just about as much cognitive effort to try an suspend my disbelief for "the system rebuilt Sam with multiple conciousnesses, functioning independently, and Sam perceives the not-him consciousness as Quorra" as it does for "somehow the system constructed a new, functioning human being, and it thinks it's Quorra."
Which is, you know, a lot.
I have less difficulty with this idea because it seems - at least to me - to be a little more plausible, given the functionality and limitations of a system like the Grid based on what we've seen. (It'd be a lot easier if we didn't have to try and square things with the first movie, which establishes some unwritten ground rules that the sequel plays fast and loose with.)
One thing we know for certain is that the Grid server has to be capable of dynamically modelling a User's consciousness. It doesn't have to be a 1:1 simulation of brain function down to the firing of individual neurons and chemical state changes, and it probably wouldn't
be - that's hideously computationally expensive, so you'd want to abstract it into something that would be capable of actually fitting onto the server. Something more like a Grid program's persona. The portal also has to be able to update the stored model of the User's brain when they transit back to the real world to reflect the experiences they had on the Grid. If it didn't, they wouldn't remember anything that happened there once they left.
Programs, like Users, apparently possess conscious minds on the Grid. In the case of the ISOs in particular - free-willed entities without a hard-coded purpose - their minds seem extremely close to human. Sufficiently so that I have no problem with the idea of the portal mapping algorithms parsing that abstract model and generating a functioning physical brain model from it.
The problems begin when we start talking about bodies.
We know that programs on the Grid aren't physically modeled like Users, Quorra included. Even if we assume a User's physical body is digitally abstracted from the scanning data as well, there's clearly a lot more being simulated internally - the fact that Sam bleeds on the Grid is very telling. Programs don't bleed, or suffer from blood loss, or even seem to have any sort of functional innards based on what we've seen. They're walking, talking avatars made of glassy voxels that shatter when they take too much damage. And that's a good
thing, because trying to simulate the complex biochemical interactions constantly going on in humans for every program on the Grid would be hugely prohibitive in terms of memory overhead and CPU use. Abstracting the physical on the Grid is the smart way to go.
This creates headaches, though. If programs aren't physically simulated like Users, what does the portal software have to work from? With Users, there's that scanned template to rebuild the body from, which is what the portal's designed to work with. Update the "brain" of the template when it leaves so that it has memories of the experience, then reconstruct it in the real world. Boom, done. For a program, it's basically being asked to create a living body from whole cloth, based on nothing but their physical appearance on the Grid (if that). That's where my suspension of disbelief starts to founder. I can accept the idea of generating a working human neural configuration out of abstract program data because it's arguably necessary just to make the Grid work in the first place. But now we're talking about a magic box that lets you feed computer programs into one end and have living breathing people pop out of the other, scratch-built to spec, by a system that was never really designed for that. A tape recorder can store music and sounds and play them back; it's not made to generate
music. And the laser, like a tape recorder, was originally designed to record something - in this case, a physical image of a User - and play that back.
(The more I think about this, the more I think Flynn would have had to have something like a leashed, lobotomized MCP running things at the OS level to make any of this function at all.)
I can work around these issues in my head, but nothing I've come up with feels particularly satisfying.
|emdeesee Wrote:Thematically, it weakens the finale, when Quorra feels the wind on her face and the sun on her skin. There's power in that scene because of Quorra's physical presence to have these new experiences. That power would be lost if the experiences were mediated through Sam's physicality.
(As much as I find issues in the end of Legacy, I think that's a great scene.)
It's a great image, and I really like it on that level. Sadly, it also creates some serious issues for me. I can't help but think that the writers liked that ending so much that they decided to throw plausibility to the wind. 'Erm... um... if people can go in, programs can come out! Yeah, that's it. Now check out this ending! Isn't it awesome
?!' Rule of Cool alone isn't enough to carry that ending, IMO. Especially not given the can of worms it opens.buy viagra onlinehttp://www.bilimselbilisim.com/haberler_detay.aspx?id=42 viagra online