On the other hand, what emdeecee says is sensible. He's got a point about the laws of physics where her hair moves about in the wind during the motorcycle ride and seeing the sun for the first time.
Nah, that doesn't bug me so much. If it's all in Sam's head, then yes, everything WOULD follow the laws of physics as he knows them. I mean, I suppose you could make that stuff NOT happen, which could be how Sam figures out she's only in his head (kind of like in A Beautiful Mind
when he finally realizes he knows that friend of his who he's always imagining isn't real, because the guy has never aged).
|emdeesee Wrote:An interesting idea, Argent, but I'm not sure it helps alleviate the questions that are raised by the potential of a material Quorra. To me, it seems just about as troubling...
It would require the digitazation system to "rewire" Sam's brain to provide the "virtual machine" within which Quorra would run, then booting Quorra into that machine. Then the virtual machine in Sam's brain has to function in such a way as to make Sam experience coherent hallucinations. And when you get past all that, you still have all the same problems about existence in the digital world vs. the "real" world.
Another scenario that would be interesting is that Sam THINKS Q's in his head... and we come to find out later that something about being digitized can mess with your brain. After all, people thought Flynn was getting weird toward the end, right? Maybe it was a product of constant digitization that screwed up something in his psyche. I mean, let's think about it. Your consciousness is being transferred between your own body and a computer system. Seems to me that it'd be pretty easy, then, to lose stuff in translation, kind of like a game of Telephone. Especially since you're essentially zapped wirelessly. Eventually, information might be lost or altered, right? I mean, think about the myriad of dangers with even the smallest error in the digitization process.
And consider that that's one of the things to think about with quantum teleportation. I get zapped to France. when I'm re-created there, am I the same person? I'll probably be created using different matter, for one. So would I really be the same person in all ways?
Again, I would love to read fics based around either of these ideas. Just not sure I'd want it to be canon via Disney.
I've always thought you're right, though, Argent-- how does the laser know how to replicate something that never had the parameters in the first place? I mean, when Q's arm is off, it's clearly a simple pixelation. How would the laser know how to recreate her with all of the internal stuff that would be necessary to create a human arm? Even if it used Flynn's matter, the laser only knows how to create two people: Sam Flynn and Kevin Flynn. It has NO IDEA how to create any other body, let alone a female body. Based on info it has, it MIGHT be able to approximate another male body, though I figure it would either come out with errors and inconsistencies (think of Odo on Star Trek
), or it might come out looking a lot like one or both of the Flynns (or at least the internal structures might be similar since that's what the laser wouldn't already have info for).
And, too, let's consider the idea of cell aging and such as well. How far is Flynn's matter broken down in the laser? If Quorra is recreated using it, is she essentially kicking around with 50-some-year-old cells and stuff? Does that mean she'll end up like Mel Gibson in the end of Forever Young
where she ages quickly? Or, for that matter, might she age quickly anyway, since she comes from a place with accelerated time as compared to ours (Flynn, after all, seems to age according to time in the real world, not in the Grid, so perhaps Q might also age according to her natural environment)?
Also, speaking of cans of worms-- there's a reason I've never brought a program into the real world in any of my fic. Because OMG the difference. Even just your first experience of the sun would have you screaming and covering your eyes, because you're coming from a place where you have ALWAYS lived in total darkness with artificial light. Hell, you wouldn't even know you're not supposed to look right at it. Imagine dealing with the reality of getting sick and aging and mortality (and this would be the worst. Even people who have been used to these things their whole lives don't handle them well). Of body functions like the need to eat and breathe, elimination, etc. Real-world laws and culture and mores. Experiencing plants and animals and all the rest of the natural world. The need to bathe and change one's clothes. It would be culture shock of the worst kind. Think of all the things of our world that it's taken you a lifetime to learn, that you've learned because you've been immersed in this world... then imagine having to learn it all academically all at once, things you've never experienced before, having to unlearn an entire world that has been your existence all along. I don't know if anyone could handle it.