Watching it and just noticed a certain detail:

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TRON.dll Wrote: ShadowSpark Wrote:Watching it and just noticed a certain detail: SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read: Am I seeing things, or is that Yori's outfit in this Tron Uprising Screenshot: http://oi49.tinypic.com/2i6j3t4.jpg SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read: I think it is, kind of hard to tell due to the quality. When the episode is available in HD we'll probably be able to get a better view of it.

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pratorius Wrote:where did you watch it. the episode shown was GROUNDED. WE BOTH KNOW HOW THIS ENDS is next week. i know because they are both already on ON DEMAND.

I watched them both here: http://www.animeflavor.com/node/37628

I'm downloading it from the Playstation Store right now. Looking forward to watching it then coming back here to FINALLY read through the spoilers in this thread. Haha

spacedinosaurblue Wrote:Having watched this episode I find it very interesting. A few spoilered thoughts. SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read: Abel seems to have no faith that Tron will accomplish anything. He's down to earth, so must have good reason for suspecting Tron. I wonder what past mistakes Tron has made? It would be a dark twist if Beck is not Tron's first mentee, and the previous ones are all dead/derezzed. The show by its nature has a dark overtone because, ironically enough, we all know how this ends. Tron is rectified, Beck and his friends missing, dead, or deactivated in some way. This episode is the first one in which the show, in-universe, casts doubt on Tron's motives, his competency, and the ultimate outcome of the uprising. It makes me wonder how far the show is willing to go in order to serve quality writing.

I'll see that and answer it. No spoilers:

Beck isn't, not by a longshot. If anything, he's Tron's fourth apprentice - at least! Think about it:

Anon - Did some amazing things during his short runtime, like stopping the Abraxas virus and getting Quorra to safety, but got himself good and dead...

Jalen - Was the champion of Battle Grids (if I remember how they handled Battle Grids in canon), received training so that he could pretty much be Tron's Iso counterpart, and was turned into Abraxas.

Dyson - Almost forgot this one, but that smug jerk was his Lancer, right hand man, and another likely apprentice. And to call the way this turned out "ugly" is understating things.

And if, in any way, Tron had trained Ram? Yeah. That just makes it much, much worse. Given that, his harshness and Batman-on-a-bad-day behavior towards Beck has an additional justification.

BanditTron Wrote:Fantastic Episode! First of all....FINALLY we get to see Grid Bugs in action. Definitely not a situation I would want to be in.

Me neither.

BanditTron Wrote:I agree with J on the possibility of TRON's track record with trainee's being less than stellar and we might even see more expansion on this in some later episodes, I hope.

I expect this might be part of the 'shocking secret' that Beck's supposed to discover in the next episode. Guess we'll see in a week.

At least Beck doesn't have to scramble to come up with reasons to explain his absences from the garage. At least, not to Able. He still has to find a way to explain it to Mara and Zed. You think Mara will be the next person to find out Beck's secret?

BanditTron Wrote:As for the outfit in Able's office....its pretty darn close, but what does it mean? Is it just another "artifact" from the old Grid? Here's a comparison shot I put together.

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Pilgrim - about that outfit...we've never heard about Yori's fate. No mention of her in the ARG, Betrayal, Evolution, Legacy, nothing. This is why fanfic writers like myself have a gold mine with her.

1) Scenario 1: Never leaves Encom server/goes with Lora to DC

Well, this continues the "like User, like Program" thing that the Bradleys have with their Programs. Lora's in one "system," Alan's in another. They still seem to make it work if the ARG is anything to go on. Of course, that still makes it anyone's guess if she's alive, or aged and "died" while her husband stayed young on the Grid (albeit, in a way that would have horrified her). If she is alive, but never encountered the Grid? Well, I doubt she'll take the whole Rinzler news well.

2) Scenario 2: De-Rezzed into the fridge

This is the go-to scenario for a lot of fic writers, especially anyone trying to pull slash. It's reasonable. Judging from her little stunts fighting against Master Control, she probably wouldn't take Clu's bullshit either. Hell, she might be even LESS inclined because of that whole residual memory Programs inherit from their Users (there has been some seriously NASTY Clu/Yori "one-sided-attraction" that plays this card)

So, she ends up on Clu's shortlist of "Programs to de-rez" for about a dozen reasons. More often than not, the scenario ends with "Rinzler, kill her;" an EPIC level Kick the Dog for Clu (that's perfectly in character), and even more angst fodder for when Tron comes to his senses.

3) Hides/Survives

This one is also pretty common. Ryder uses it. Dawning Star uses it, Kat's used it, I use it. She's fighting for or working with the Resistance, somewhere under the radar. She keeps a low profile (or an alias), folks either forget about her or assume she's dead. But she's still fighting the good fight for the Users and/or her fallen husband. The end result of this is usually a bittersweet reunion with an uncertain future.

The stuff leaning towards this is Word of God (from Kosinski) saying she's alive and well. Plus, there's all the publicity stuff Morgan's been doing as of late. Disney probably wouldn't want her doing all those cons if they were going to ignore her characters or shove them into the fridge. Furthermore, when they inherited LucasArts? Well, that company has a pretty bad track record with women; see Padme, Jedi Exile, and Mara Jade's end. They might not want or NEED another sexism controversy because they're on some seriously shaky ground. Plus, the fridge is full; Radia and Jordan are already shoved in there.