Take it easy, Dave. Just know you're always welcome back.

DaveTRON Wrote:I decided at one point last year to leave TRON Sector. I was trying to save my job and I realized it was a bad call and I came back. Now I find myself in a position where I am having to convince myself to come to TRON Sector at all. This site is a place that I have a lot of trouble with sometimes. It is filled with frieinds and good frieindships, but it is also imbued with some bad feelings for me. I want it to be so much more than it is, and I have no real control over that. People treat me like I run it, but it isn't mine and it isn't ever going to be what I want it to be. I feel like things have been broken here for a long time and that the heart of the system is not interested in it anymore. Therefore, I am leaving TRON Sector again. This time it will be permanent, unlike the last time. I wish you all well, and I hope some of you will stay in touch via email. I will not be back after this post, so if you want to talk to me you can write me at darnspiger@earthlink.net or IM with me at darnspiger@earthlink.net via MS Messenger or david_arnspiger on Yahoo messenger during the day. End of Line

Sorry DaveTron, but you come across as a tad arrogant. I'm sure your presence is appreciated - and it is - on the board, but don't expect people to start sobbing or starting a 'lets-retain-DaveTron-petition.

Sorry DaveTron, but you come across as a tad arrogant. I'm sure your presence is appreciated - and it is - on the board, but don't expect people to start sobbing or starting a 'lets-retain-DaveTron-petition.

Honestly, why would you feel the need to post something like this? To be honest, I can see why/how some may consider it arrogant to post a good-bye post, however what's the point of saying the above? From reading his post it seems as if he simply wants a break, nothing more, nothing less. I'm not sure why you take the tones you do (eg. Anyone foolish enough to pay for this ridiculously overpriced item deserves to get ripped off. The fact some of you are even contemplating it astounds me). There's simply no reason to do so. I've always felt that non-constructive negative comments don't really have a place on the forums.

Having said that let me be absolutely clear... I am not trying to flame you or cause any problems. I truly have no "beef" towards anyone on these boards. In fact, I still think Dave is mad at me to this day for not being more puntcual with e-mails last year when I bought something from him . That's his right and there was simply no reason to air it out on the boards previously. Regardless of that, I'm still sad to see him go. He contributed quite a bit to these boards and this site in general.

Doug Jacoby Wrote: ---------------------

Doug, you do realize that open threats like that can land you in quite a bit of trouble. I don't know (and don't care to) what issues you had with Dave but I would strongly suggest not posting such things. There should be NO tolerance on the boards for a post like this.

-Timothy C.

Red5 Wrote: DaveTRON Wrote:I decided at one point last year to leave TRON Sector. I was trying to save my job and I realized it was a bad call and I came back. Now I find myself in a position where I am having to convince myself to come to TRON Sector at all. This site is a place that I have a lot of trouble with sometimes. It is filled with frieinds and good frieindships, but it is also imbued with some bad feelings for me. I want it to be so much more than it is, and I have no real control over that. People treat me like I run it, but it isn't mine and it isn't ever going to be what I want it to be. I feel like things have been broken here for a long time and that the heart of the system is not interested in it anymore. Therefore, I am leaving TRON Sector again. This time it will be permanent, unlike the last time. I wish you all well, and I hope some of you will stay in touch via email. I will not be back after this post, so if you want to talk to me you can write me at darnspiger@earthlink.net or IM with me at darnspiger@earthlink.net via MS Messenger or david_arnspiger on Yahoo messenger during the day. End of Line Sorry DaveTron, but you come across as a tad arrogant. I'm sure your presence is appreciated - and it is - on the board, but don't expect people to start sobbing or starting a 'lets-retain-DaveTron-petition.

Actually, considering that DaveTRON is/was an admin for this site it's probably a good thing he let us know he's going away. I don't believe he would post something like this just for attention.

In my opinion

1) DaveTRON simply said goodbye

He wanted to call the attention of all in negative form ...

na..... I don´t Believe it (*)


2) Someone does not like what DaveTRON writes AND ONLY FOR THIS REASON HE FEEL THAT HAVE THE LIBERTY FOR WRITES ABSURD THINGS...

Please...

WHAT IT IS IMPORTANT FROM THE PERSONS ARE YOUR
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(*) Why I don´t Believe in DaveTRON´S BAD INTENTIONS?

DaveTRON : 2296 POST WITHOUT BAD INTENTIONS IS SUFFICIENT?

I don´t think that the DaveTRON's farewell should be judged in bad way, If someone does it thereby, after everything what DaveTRON has done for this site, I think that it would be with bad intentions

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Wow, just read this new news.

To me, it seems that many of the frustrations experienced might have come from the fact that he became a site Admin and became intertwined with the daily operations of 'running' (more or less) a site like this. This is exactly the reason why i wouldn't want to become a site admin here, or any other site where my sole purpose for visiting is my love for the topic at hand. All the sudden, Admin work can become mundane work and unrewarding. I won't claim to know the reasons he left. But if this was the major issue, I would've rather have seen him step down as an Admin and just become a user (errr... program? ) like the rest of us and then give himself time to recuperate from the trials and tribulations, the headaches, and the energies he used up in helping us all out so much while he was an Admin. (I can see how being an Admin here would definitely be a drain; to constantly add new links, upload new files, respond to all our inquiries, maintain links, etc.) Unfortunately, his good-naturedness in wanting to help us all out may have led to his insurmountable frustrations. Which is why I feel stepping down from the Admin role, rather than permanently leaving, may have given him time to heal and come back when he was ready.

I sometimes take a break from this site as other priorities in life call me, or when I just don't feel like being here. Others have left for a while, like Nikster, etc. Even if two or three months, or two or three years separated me from this site, I don't think I could ever say, "I'll never be back." For me, that would be unrealistic since I don't know where I'll be 5 years from now or what sentimental Tron-Sector feelings might surface at that time. But then again, I've never been an Admin here and never felt the bad feelings Dave has felt here -- so maybe I'd have no problem in a permanent departure if that were the case.

DaveTRON wrote: I want it to be so much more than it is, and I have no real control over that. People treat me like I run it, but it isn't mine and it isn't ever going to be what I want it to be. I feel like things have been broken here for a long time and that the heart of the system is not interested in it anymore.

I feel that upon becoming an Admin for a site like this, there's an inherent risk of becoming a central point-of-contact for the users to go to when they want something done with the site on an Admin sort of level. Especially when you're so friendly and willing to help; whereas other Admins maybe haven't been as responsive.

Naturally, Dave has helped us immensely in getting our files posted and site issues corrected, etc. Through his help, he's become the central point-of-contact for lots of things. Lord knows I've probably bugged him enough over silly Admin things. But I never felt that he ran the site (as I knew he was only trying to help out as an Admin); and I don't feel he should've ever felt obligated to upload any of my files or help me out in any way with Tron-related things. I hope these things, taken together with all of your requests, didn't lead to the departure. Again, stepping down as Admin and taking a break would've been a more desirable move, in my opinion. But also again, I don't claim to know the whole story.

Maybe I shouldn't have written all of this, but I'm only looking at this from an objective and purely observational point-of-view; nothing more, nothing less. I sometimes fall into a trap of trying to "figure things out" or analyzing when maybe I shouldn't. But it's just my "problem solver" or analytical nature and I sometimes can't help it.

In the end, I'll miss seeing Dave here the same as all of you will. His Tron insights, words of wisdom, humor and knowledge are not matched by anyone else I know. So, yeah, it's a blow to the Sector to see him go. But if he's happier to not be here, then I have to respect and try to understand that.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

I along with many others am very sorry to see Dave go.

Dave was more than an admin.

Dave was our link to the creative people who are responsible for the creation of TRON, and as a huge aficionado of all things TRON he brought a broad and in-depth knowledge of the subject to this site that we would never have had otherwise.

And let's not forget that Dave's a cool guy. He started contest threads in which he gave away his own TRON stuff! Who here can honestly say they didn't think that was super-cool of Dave to do?

He jumped right in and talked about his love of 80's music, movies and toys with the rest of us. Because of that, I feel like I had a small connection Dave, as I'm sure others of us here do.

As for Red5, I doubt anyone here agrees with you. He obviously has some strong feelings about the site and possibly other things that preclude his participating in and on it. Maybe the site reminds him about how BVI screwed up the TRON license and then screwed him, and he can't be bothered anymore. If that's the case I can't say I blame him.

In any case, I liked Dave and I wish him lots of luck in his future endeavors. Have a great life Dave. This site won't be the same without you.

5 days late again...

I'm sorry to see you go Dave, and you will certianly be missed by all.

I'm not around here much myself lately for many reasons. RL issues being one, and heavy involvement in another on line community being another.

But I still stop in once in a while just to see what all the programs are up too. I'll miss seing your posts here.

Good luck in all you do.

DS

It's April Fools day! Are you going to pop on Dave and tell us you were just kidding??

No?

Well, just wishful thinking, I guess.