ShadowDragon1
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Posts: 2,056 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Thursday, July, 15, 2010 8:59 AM
The OS in the original film resembled DOS, in the new movie there is a "SolarOS" on Flynn's computer-server in his hidden back room. There are no typical graphical icons like in Windows in either of those OS's. It more resembles Unix...
The cyberspace Constructs such as the "I/O tower" are a bit "abstract" and may seem to be only to an aspect of a programming language, or command lines that the User includes in the OS. Or perhaps like a driver (*.dll) or other type of data transmission routine that is pre-set and running within the database.
While it's all very interesting to talk about this stuff, I think your focusing too much on trying to explain things within the Tron universe too much. Tron is an alternate cyberspace realm on the micro-cosmic level, another dimesion of space-time innerspace beyond what humans can percieve or fully understand.
I think it best to leave *some* mystery and not
over-analyze and try to explain away things in technological terms, because that takes away too much of Tron's surrealistic and spiritual aspects. I'd rather keep those instead.
So I'm not really understanding entirely why you are so overly focused on an explaination for every thing in the Tron universe. Just saying.
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Program BASIC
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Posts: 148 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Thursday, July, 15, 2010 2:35 PM
ShadowDragon,
I'm just having fun! That's just one of the many pleasures of TRON.
Anyway you're right... in the parallel Earth where the TRON movies take place, there's an alternate version of Internet and overall computer programming... I dig it so much.
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tecknoshaman
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Posts: 39 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Thursday, July, 15, 2010 8:50 PM
And ShadowDragon, since they said that the game 2.0 is not cannon anymore that anything from that game may not exist in cannon anymore like the special abilities. So that is irrelevant.
I also notice that in legacy there will be some sort weather effects cause in the trailer with the Recognizer scene you see lighting in the background.
In Evolution we might see some special abilities in the programs. The hero you play that I am not sure if he is a user or program, you gain unique maneuvers and special disc attacks like disc grenade.
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ShadowDragon1
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Posts: 2,056 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Friday, July, 16, 2010 1:21 AM
Tron Evolution deals with a Virus entity and his affect on the system and possibly other Program entities, and as such seems to resemble a major aspect of Tron 2.0...
Just because it's no longer "canon" doesn't mean that elements are not being "borrowed" from it, cause there are aspects of the new game and the movie that sort of suspiciously mirror aspects of Tron 2.0.
The virtual weather in Tron Legacy I think is a reflection of glitches in the system, and a relative kind of after-affect of overclocking. Excess electron flow, static current that lingers and breaks down that in a sub-cosmic form *appears* like lightning and rain in their realm.
Again I ask, why does everything in the Tron "have to" have an explaination?
It's somewhat interesting to banter about such things, but ultimately, what's the dang point?
Enjoy the Tron universe for what it is, this isn't a physics class or a computer engineering arm of a tech corporation here, and we need not dwell on some of these things so much....
Tron at it's heart is in a sense metaphysical, surrealistic, and somewhat abstract and for me that's good enough, so technical mumbo-jumbo is really not neccessary to focus on so much.
It's like analysing a grimm fairytale and trying to correlate to economic entropy and use intense psychoanalysis to explain every possible thing in it.
It's not really neccessary in my view. Sometimes a level of "suspension of disbelief" and just enjoying the darn fairy tale is more fun...
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Histrion
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Posts: 137 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Friday, July, 16, 2010 7:42 AM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Again I ask, why does everything in the Tron "have to" have an explaination?
It's somewhat interesting to banter about such things, but ultimately, what's the dang point? |
So, let me paraphrase: "It can be fun to talk about this. But why should we?" Uh... because it's fun?
| Enjoy the Tron universe for what it is, this isn't a physics class or a computer engineering arm of a tech corporation here, and we need not dwell on some of these things so much.... |
For some people, discussing and even debating topics like this is part of the fun. If that isn't the case for you, fine.
| Tron at it's heart is in a sense metaphysical, surrealistic, and somewhat abstract and for me that's good enough, so technical mumbo-jumbo is really not neccessary to focus on so much. |
You switched very quickly in that sentence from "this is true for me" to an implied "this should be true for everyone."
Is the discussion somehow ruining the film for you in some way? Then don't read it. But in the meantime, to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, it "neither breaks your leg nor picks your pocket."
| It's like analysing a grimm fairytale and trying to correlate to economic entropy |
Actually, no, it isn't. The characters in the Grimm Brothers' fairy tales don't claim to be economists. But some of the characters in TRON do claim to be either programs or their users.
| and use intense psychoanalysis to explain every possible thing in it. |
Some people enjoy discussing fairy tales in that context. I find that tiring and pretentious, but that's me. OTOH, the conversation about how programs work in the TRON universe doesn't strike me that way at all.
| It's not really neccessary in my view. Sometimes a level of "suspension of disbelief" and just enjoying the darn fairy tale is more fun... |
If Program BASIC were giving any indication that this issue were ruining the film for him, then there might be a point to evoking the MST3K mantra ("It's only a film, you really should relax.") But I haven't seen any sign of that. ProgB, if I'm wrong, please correct me.  order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill
  
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ShadowDragon1
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Posts: 2,056 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Friday, July, 16, 2010 8:58 AM
I'm just giving my point of view.
I just think trying to explain away every little thing in the Tron universe takes away some of the mystery and mystiq it has.
I just think technological literalism and techno-babble isn't particularly neccessary to apply to the
semi-surrealist/semi-abstract universe of Tron which to me is more along the lines of being akin to Greek mythology and less like "Ghost in the Shell" or "The Matrix" or some form of hard science fiction. Just my view on this....
Not saying people shouldn't have a different view(s).
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aldul
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Posts: 194 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Wednesday, July, 21, 2010 12:05 PM
I agree this is fun to talk about and can be entertaining to deconstruct this electronic world to 'figure out' how it works. It doesn't spoil it for me one bit. I call it the "layers of reality" argument, and it works in our everyday world.
Do any of your cells know you're there, or do they just go on, blindly carrying out their chemical reactions? What about the atoms in your cells? They're hardly even there. You're solid because the electric force fields in your atoms repel those in the desk you smash your hand on. Totally outside our common everyday experience. How about the large scale structure of the universe? It has nothing to do with us, works on vastly different time scales, and concerns itself with things we have trouble wrapping our heads around.
So, what the hell? Why not have an electric dimension somehow coupled to our own? It no weirder than anything else going on around here. :-)
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ShadowDragon1
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Posts: 2,056 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Wednesday, July, 21, 2010 12:08 PM
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aldul
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Posts: 194 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Wednesday, July, 21, 2010 4:06 PM
| ShadowDragon1 Wrote:"What The *bleep* Do We Know?" FTW |
I saw that. It was a bit too hippie for me. I like Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe."
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tecknoshaman
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Posts: 39 | Re: How do programs work in the TRON UNIVERSE?
on Thursday, July, 22, 2010 7:36 AM
So it looks some programs will have unique abilities (powers) for an example this character, an official figurine:
Now not sure if this is just a suit, a gear like a jet pack or if it "grows" from the program's back
Update: Find out that is a Black Guard and it is one of the main villain's personal guard.
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