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Traahn
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Pregnancies Must Be Discouraged?

on Saturday, February, 04, 2006 7:36 PM
Has anyone heard any weird, hidden lines in the movie ? I'd like to hear your discoveries. I have one to start with. A character in the computer world seems to say, "Pregnancies must be discouraged..."

Very interesting, if they're so cognizant and worrisome of reproducing? At any rate, it really seems like a strange line to be said in the Tron world to me.

Here's where it happened...

Scene: Chapter 12 of the DVD. Tron and Yori are walking through an area with a bunch of weird characters that are called Inoperative Data Pushers.

Tron: "Who are all these weirdos?"
Yori: "Inoperative data pushers."
Tron: "Control programs." (or maybe he says: "Controlled programs," I'm not sure)
A male program in foreground: "Pregnancies must be discouraged."

I rewound and listened again a few times. I think this is what he says...

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KiaPurity
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on Saturday, February, 04, 2006 7:47 PM
The captions definitely don't show those... o_O

Maybe they're made up lines on purpose? ^^; (To make it look like they were conversing?)

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TheReelTodd
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on Saturday, February, 04, 2006 11:07 PM
I thought he was saying "vagrancies must be discouraged", is in straying from whatever teachings that program seemed to be leader of.

You're talking about those programs in the purple robes, right?



 
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on Saturday, February, 04, 2006 11:29 PM
the purple monks appear to me as though they were discontent with being inoperable, maybe thier user and had been used in a quarrel about why they must exist, or they may be an older security program. thus, they may have been saying: "these discrepencies must be discouraged."
maybe subliminal attempt to make them seem soulish? just a guess.
Another scenario, is that they were reprogrammed to push data, to infultrate and set up the MCP's propaganda machine in a less conspicuous form. who knows...

EDIT:But now that I think of it, I do wonder whether or not these characters were actually users programs that were merged into the MCP, and thrown back into town, or unwitting programs...
but they must have been used by the MCP, as they had very little humanlike resemblence to the other programs.


 
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on Sunday, February, 05, 2006 2:38 PM
Interesting thoughts... interesting thoughts, indeed! Next time I watch that scene, I'll listen even harder now that I see there are more options there. I admit I don't have the best PC speaker set-up here (only 2 speakers), so if it's highly clear in surround sound speakers of a 5.1 setup or something, then let me know if that's how you verify.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pill


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Lew
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on Wednesday, February, 08, 2006 5:34 AM
There's quite a bit of good background dialogue in all of the cell block scenes. I'll have to have a listen sometime, but the one that instantly springs to mind is the scene where Crom is being lead to the cells, in one of the surround channels a voice cries out "I want my User!".order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
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on Wednesday, February, 08, 2006 6:05 PM
Lew Wrote:There's quite a bit of good background dialogue in all of the cell block scenes. I'll have to have a listen sometime, but the one that instantly springs to mind is the scene where Crom is being lead to the cells, in one of the surround channels a voice cries out "I want my User!".



I've never heard that before. It strikes me as an "I want my mommy" kind of line. I would have laughed if I ever heard that before.

Does it only play through the surround sound channel, or can it be heard in basic stereo. I do not have surround sound, nor will I this decade.

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Lew
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on Thursday, February, 09, 2006 4:33 AM
TheReelTodd Wrote:
Lew Wrote:There's quite a bit of good background dialogue in all of the cell block scenes. I'll have to have a listen sometime, but the one that instantly springs to mind is the scene where Crom is being lead to the cells, in one of the surround channels a voice cries out "I want my User!".



I've never heard that before. It strikes me as an "I want my mommy" kind of line. I would have laughed if I ever heard that before.

Does it only play through the surround sound channel, or can it be heard in basic stereo. I do not have surround sound, nor will I this decade.

I'll have to check, but I only noticed it after I got a ProLogic setup. It's probably there in the stereo downmix, although it may be drowned out by the other background noise.

IIRC, it's around the point where Crom says "Look, this is all a mistake…".


 
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on Thursday, February, 09, 2006 9:43 AM


I have a utility that can extract different sound channels from a DVD. Maybe I'll try and seperate out the channels and see if I can capture a good sound "byte"

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Lew
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on Thursday, February, 09, 2006 11:45 AM
If you do, all of the sections in the cell block have some good background dialogue.

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TheReelTodd
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on Thursday, February, 09, 2006 6:41 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:...Maybe I'll try and seperate out the channels and see if I can capture a good sound "byte"

I've been waiting a LONG time for this!

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on Thursday, February, 09, 2006 11:21 PM
My utility did not separate the channels of sound, just the layers. Meaning, I can separate the commentary from the sound, but not the sound into its separate channels.

Sorry bout that....

EDIT: I put the PSP version in (which has AWESOME sound) and you can clearly hear "I want my user!" but it's not whiny... it's like "I want to speak to someone in charge!!!".. there are then some mutterings in the background that cannot be heard cleanly behind Crom. However, one snippet I did catch was "So how long have you been down here?"







 
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on Friday, February, 10, 2006 6:07 PM
I'm glad someone brought this up. I was going to do a topic about sound effects from "TRON" and this was one of my topics that I wanted to point out.

It's best to listen to "TRON" with headphones so you can really hear what the other programs are saying.

There's one scene where Ram is talking to Tron in the holding block that features these "ambience" sounds. I can hear generic videogame sounds from the game grid, and some programs screaming.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online


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Re: Pregnancies Must Be Discouraged?

on Friday, February, 10, 2006 7:59 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:...I put the PSP version in (which has AWESOME sound) and you can clearly hear "I want my user!" but it's not whiny... it's like "I want to speak to someone in charge!!!"..

Ahh - as in "I want my lawyer", huh?

That's cool.

Actually that makes a lot more sense. These programs were basically being imprisoned against their will, like someone being jailed. The jailbirds ask for their lawyers, and the conscripts ask for their Users. Another layer of cool that I never knew about.
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on Sunday, February, 12, 2006 4:35 AM
Well I had to listen to it a couple of times using the remix 5.1 surround and I even checked my script which is only a fourth draft so a lot of the lines were changed, it sounds like he says, "discrepencies must be discouraged" which would make sense in a computer world. It's not in the script that I have. There is one spot just before Tron and Yori enter where one program says to another, "... all mathematical functions transferred to...", it's in the script, it's hard to hear exactly what the program says, almost sounds like "...manual functions returned to zero..", even after listening a few times I still couldn't quite make it out clearly.

More Trivia: Bit was actually supposed to talk and hung around Flynn through the whole movie! I was heart broken when it got trapped in the recognizer. For instance when Flynn crashes the recognizer with all the programs around, he says "This town's full'o live ones." Bit was supposed to respond with "Not a chance." and when Flynn takes out the guard Bit was supposed to get excited and declares, "All right!" where Flynn then hushes Bit with a finger to his lips.



 
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on Sunday, February, 12, 2006 11:59 AM


A talking bit seems too "Lucas" for me. I'm glad they just kept it "yes" or "no" and that he was only there for comic relief in the recognizer.




 
Traahn
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Re: Pregnancies Must Be Discouraged?

on Sunday, February, 12, 2006 1:53 PM
There are some good tidbits of info in this thread. I will definitely be listening with a more discerning ear...

LOL, a talking Bit? What about Tron 2.0, Boingo_Buzzard? I know that's "Byte," but still. Same sort of thing. Were you bothered by Byte? To be honest, I was partially bothered by it and would've preferred just a simpley 'Yes Yes Yes' or 'No No No' bit, but I wasn't that bugged by it. Does anyone else here wish Byte could've instead been Bit in Tron 2.0? It woulda been cool to know Bit survived the 20 years and is still a little sidekick companion.


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on Sunday, February, 12, 2006 5:21 PM
And you can prove it's the same bit how?


 
Traahn
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Re: Pregnancies Must Be Discouraged?

on Sunday, February, 12, 2006 5:30 PM
It would be implied, of course.

There are "bit-like" locks you have to briefly search in Tron 2.0 to unlock, and then when they unlock, they say a typical Bit "yeeessss". But I don't consider them to be our beloved "Bit." Bit had character and personality, like Byte... so all that would've needed to happen was to make Byte be Bit by reducing that character's language to the binary "Yes/No" language.

I weep at the thought that Bit may have been reduced to a simple subservient embedded lock; imprisoned by the MCP like that, somewhere on the game grid; to be frobbed by thankless Tron 2.0 players.


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on Sunday, February, 12, 2006 9:38 PM
It wouldn't have bothered me with a talking Bit. Might have been a bit cheesy for 80's, but certainly not for now. :P

(Could you tell that I really liked Byte? Personally, I just felt like Bit could have actually either evolved or ... somehow produced Byte in a way. x_o)

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