Tron Unit Wrote:I think you are confusing matter and molecules. The science works in tandem with the laws of physics. Einstein's law says that matter can be converted to energy. The atoms are converted to energy that is suspended in the laser, the atomic "information" is stored into the memory of the computer as a model so that it knows how to reassemble that energy back into physical matter. What is stored in the laser exists as pure energy NOT physical matter because it has been converted at that point into energy by the laser. E=MC2.

I'm not confusing matter and molecules. Molecules are matter. The 'spectrum' of matter goes (in a very basic sense) from quarks, to hadrons (protons and neutrons), to atoms, to molecules, an so on until you get a person, or a desk, or a glass of water.
I mention molecules as the size a digitized person is broken down to because the writers mention carbon in their explanation. I suppose a person could be broken down to smaller pieces, like their atoms perhaps, but they still have to be broken down into something.

If they are converted to 'energy' as you are saying, what kind of energy do you mean? Einstein's equation does mean that matter and energy are two sides of the same coin, but look at how that works out in real life. The closest, most pure, conversion of matter to energy that we can achieve at this point is a nuclear bomb. These are fission devices that basically split atoms, changing them from matter to energy. But the type of energy that results is huge amounts of radiation in the form of kinetic energy (the blast), thermal energy (the heat), and high energy electromagnetic waves (ultraviolet, x-rays, and even gamma-rays).

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ChessMess Wrote:I agree, Tron 2.0 was superb! I even spoke with Lisberger about it and told him that I wish Tron 2.0 had been a movie instead of a game (this was before Legacy) and he totally agreed.

Hmmm...I could certainly enjoyed Tron 2.0 as a movie...but I don't think I'd want to give up the game. It's too good. where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

The visuals of 2.0 are amazing. The gameplay is fantastic. The story felt a bit empty to me.

But from what I've seen, Legacy has quite a bit in common with 2.0 in terms of structure. It also seems to closely echo the underlying theme of Ghost in the Machine.

That said: If you're going to do a sequel to Tron, there are a limited number of directions one can go in while retaining the flavor of the original and not covering the same ground that has been explored by any number of the many things inspired by the original film.

I would love to play tron 2.0, but I can't find a Demo of it anywhere, to see if I would actually like the game.

Tron Unit Wrote:You mean the explanation the writers completely failed to provide in the film?

You're the one who pointed me to a Star Trek book for an explanation of the Transporters. A book written decades after the transporters showed up in the show.

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1. Yeah, it was a metaphor, and completely implausible. Why is that Ok in Star Trek but not Tron? And what Spock said might involve the transporter, but it’s not a plausible explanation for how it works.

2. When you wrote about technobabble is came off as saying that Tron was doing this, but Star Trek did not. Were you trying to say that Star Trek did this, but Tron did not provide enough technobabble?

3. The digital DNA was equivalent enough to allow the transfer I suppose. Heck, maybe Flynn wrote a conversion program when he started seeing the potential of the Iso’s, and that was encoded on his disc! The specifics aren’t really that important, but what I really want to know is why this is a sticking point, but the rest of the idea of Tron is not.
Also, I understand that you wanted more explanation for Quorra’s un-digitizing in the movie. I wouldn’t have minded either, but where do you come off call the explanation they did give “B.S”? What makes it B.S.? We’ll probably just have to agree to disagree on this point as I feel the complete opposite about the ending. I thought it was wonderful to watch her experience her first sunrise, get her wish of seeing the things she’d longed for. It left me with a feeling of great potential for where the story could go from there and what adventures they could have. It’s much like the first movie in that way.

Thanks!

Now, the only problem is if I like it.

can;t find a cheap copy anywhere.

All jacked up prices.

74 bucks on ebay, nothing cheaper.

Wugmanmax Wrote:In the TRON: Betrayal GN, Flynn has a rant about alternative energy sources. It's possible his secret server was running off solar or wind powered generators...

I sure hope not. You would learn to dread those still nights then wouldn't you.

ZM

typicaltronname Wrote: Now, the only problem is if I like it. can;t find a cheap copy anywhere. All jacked up prices. 74 bucks on ebay, nothing cheaper.

Keep an eye on Amazon.com. Not all the sellers there are trying to gouge people, now that Tron is popular again. Once in a while someone there is selling 2.0 for a reasonable price.

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The basement server and mini-laser lab was Flynn's baby. I would be shocked if Flynn didn't have multiple redundant power supplies and accounts set up at Encom explicitly for upkeep of the arcade property. Accounts for utilities like that can continue automatically if nobody stops them for decades. It happens in real life.

Also, while this is viewer conjecture or "fridge logic" I've always felt that Tron's universe is definitely an alternate universe - in an overall sense, not just the existence of a fictional company like Encom.

In Tron, Encom already had computer technology in advance of what was truly possible in the early 80s. Flynn, boy genius, took over and they began designing ever more advanced computers. I think it's plausible that in the 7 years between Tron and Flynn being trapped in the Grid, he also advanced computer technology in the real world faster than in real life. By performing research and development inside the Grid, and bringing some of the designs out with him. (This may be hinted at due to engineers like "Ram" working with Flynn in his inner circle, helping with exotic projects and technology.)

There's a reason why in the Tron universe Encom is apparently the most advanced computer company in the world, and far ahead of anyone else.

So, I wouldn't really be surprised if the server Flynn installed in the basement was essentially something a decade more advanced than actually existed in 1985-88, and I bet it was built to hardened, military grade specs. His life literally depended on it!