While I agree it would be nice if they brought (only) one or two of them back, I don't think that they need to, that's all, especially if making this concession to fans means a compromise that weakens the overall film.

I tend to agree, even though I'd love to see Roy and Lora again. Or at least get mentions of them. The movie needs to be a sequel to Legacy, not a direct/immediate sequel to TRON. I think that because that's what the mainstream audience will remember (if they even remember Legacy) and because I think Legacy was baton-passing and I don't think they need to hand the baton back.

I, personally, would love to see Alan in a really major role, but for a more successful movie (and especially if they are going to have more movies), I think they'd be better served to make Alan (and Lora or Roy, if they appear) support roles and keep Sam and Quorra (and Tron or some other new young character, if they want another trio) as the main roles along with the bad guy. I'd love for Alan to be the third in the trio, but I don't think it's necessarily the smart thing to do.

If it was a television series, they'd have so much more time, and could do so much more, but it's a movie and they have a limited amount of screen-time and plot to work with and it shouldn't be spread out amongst too many characters. If they interweave, instead of bookending, the real-world bits, they'd have a little more flexibility, I think. But that's not they way TRON has worked, so far.

I'm not against fan-service cameos, per se, but only if they can be done well and unobtrusively. I think the Lora or Roy would be easier/better to use than Yori and Ram. I don't especially want to see the MCP again, but that was what the Easter Egg indicated, and I'm fine with it. But there shouldn't be anything that is a negative for the general audience (confusing, annoying, purposeless, etc.) in order to serve the hardcore fans. In-jokes, cameos, etc. are fine, but not if they make the movie worse for the majority of the audience.

Kaisergrendel Wrote: lifeasis Wrote:It make the film much more interesting that's why. Why not? Honestly? They already brought BB and JB back, which is by itself impressive, but people don't seem to be satisfied with that. They say that they want Sark, MCP, Dillinger, Yori, RAM and even the bits to come back, over and over again. Sometimes it sounds like some are asking for a Tron with updated graphics. To me it seems a little shortsighted; nostalgia over artistic integrity. I don't want to see users fight the MCP again, I want to see something new, etc, etc. While I agree it would be nice if they brought (only) one or two of them back, I don't think that they need to, that's all, especially if making this concession to fans means a compromise that weakens the overall film.

They only person they didn't bring back that I think they need to is Cindy Morgan-- simply because any of the *plausible* scenarios I can come up with for why Lora's not around, I don't like (her and Alan splitting up, her being dead. I feel the same way about Yori, but I understand there are logistical problems with bringing her back-- the de-aging thing. Though my offer to be her body if they decide to do it still stands, lol). Otherwise I definitely agree with you... bringing back characters we dont' even really see on screen and only hear their voice for a few seconds? (Shor) Characters that definitely died in the first film? (Ram, Sark, MCP) I love the first film, I love nostalgia, but i think it can go too far. Really I don't need to go further 'cause you pretty much said everything I feel about it.

If we want a nostalgia-fest, bring them all back for a panel at a con, or make a short of an interview with them all on a making-of, or even a short comedy clip of Alan and Flynn playing lightcycles in their wheelchairs in the old-folks home or something, which would be fun AND funny. Somebody did that pic a while back of the actors from The Princess Bride, which satisfied my nostalgia without needing another film about Westley and Buttercup and their grandkids.

Of course Olivia Wilde will be in it. I'm sure her contractual obligation,, and increased star status since T:L was released, is a large reason that the 3rd movie is moving forward.

Fygee Wrote: As for Garrett Hedlund, I hope he's a lot less wooden and generic next time around.

TBH with you? Except for the last few minutes of the film, I thought Bridges was rather more guilty of this...

That is just great and such wonderful news!
But the question is....

is Kevin Flynn going to be in the next Tron?
that is all that I want to know!!!

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I rather enjoyed Hedlund's and Bridges' performances Actually, I enjoyed all performances.

Kat Wrote: Kaisergrendel Wrote: lifeasis Wrote:It make the film much more interesting that's why. Why not? Honestly? They already brought BB and JB back, which is by itself impressive, but people don't seem to be satisfied with that. They say that they want Sark, MCP, Dillinger, Yori, RAM and even the bits to come back, over and over again. Sometimes it sounds like some are asking for a Tron with updated graphics. To me it seems a little shortsighted; nostalgia over artistic integrity. I don't want to see users fight the MCP again, I want to see something new, etc, etc. While I agree it would be nice if they brought (only) one or two of them back, I don't think that they need to, that's all, especially if making this concession to fans means a compromise that weakens the overall film. They only person they didn't bring back that I think they need to is Cindy Morgan-- simply because any of the *plausible* scenarios I can come up with for why Lora's not around, I don't like (her and Alan splitting up, her being dead. I feel the same way about Yori, but I understand there are logistical problems with bringing her back-- the de-aging thing. Though my offer to be her body if they decide to do it still stands, lol). Otherwise I definitely agree with you... bringing back characters we dont' even really see on screen and only hear their voice for a few seconds? (Shor) Characters that definitely died in the first film? (Ram, Sark, MCP) I love the first film, I love nostalgia, but i think it can go too far. Really I don't need to go further 'cause you pretty much said everything I feel about it. If we want a nostalgia-fest, bring them all back for a panel at a con, or make a short of an interview with them all on a making-of, or even a short comedy clip of Alan and Flynn playing lightcycles in their wheelchairs in the old-folks home or something, which would be fun AND funny. Somebody did that pic a while back of the actors from The Princess Bride, which satisfied my nostalgia without needing another film about Westley and Buttercup and their grandkids.

No, here's a better idea. Having a scene of Dillinger in his wheelchair arguing with Kevin Flynn over their work ethics and how to code properly, trying to out-correct each other on their job over algorithims, while Sam and Dillinger Jr roll their eyes up with massive face palms.

Fygee Wrote:I hate to be a downer, but if the best movies the writer of this movie has produced are Eragon and Peter and the Starcatchers, I think we might be in trouble here.

I shit you not, right now the Lost writers seem like movie gold compared to this guy's credentials. Seriously hope we're wrong.

Lots of great points and comments being made in this thread. Have you seen Cindy and Bruce together at appearances? They are so much fun together (great chemistry) & I think that bringing both of them back would bring some of that to the big screen. Plus, they're both wonderfully talented and experienced (non wooden) actors!

AND YES PLEASE for the love of everything TRON bring the writers from TRON Uprising onboard. That series rocks!

Heck, I'd even be happy if they took more of the aesthetics (love the color, creativity & originality) from TRON Uprising and translated that into TRON 3. Why does the world inside the computer have to be so dark, rubber suit wearing, and somber?

Also, have you seen people in their 50's & 60's? Heck, even 70's. They aren't ready for the wheelchairs or nursing home yet or ever. Even the newish Disney movie studio head Alan Horn is 69.

Kat Wrote:Yeah, there was that too. When I first heard that apparently he got to build a lot of the character/dialogue, I thought "Yeah, um, that was a bad idea." But no, I just felt like Flynn came across as a bit hokey, esoteric to the point of being incomprehensible. There were a few parts where I felt the character really had something genuine (mostly in his interactions with Sam), but most of the time it just seemed like a bunch of ambiguous new-age spoutings, and if i wanted that I'd go to my favorite metaphysical bookstore.

I can't believe you think Sam is a good character yet Kevin was hokey. Flynn spent upwards of 20,000 years inside of his own metaphysical, mindblowingly amazing creation, forced into hiding by his own codified likeliness utility, which is basically Flynn if he were unable to change his mind. He witnessed the genocide of the ISO's, who are sentient life-forms that he had a part in creating. Of course he'd be esoteric and new-age. He went through some heavy, heavy, heaaaavy stuff.