LWSrocks2 Wrote:Honestly I'm a bit surprised at the people knocking Disney over this. Uprising was a great show, and it sucks that they canceled it- but there's one important thing we all have to remember here.
Disney is in this business to make money. Their ENTIRE goal, at the end of the day, is profit. This isn't "worshiping the numbers and bowing down to the bean counters", this isn't "being unable to handle the mature subject matter", this is a problem with the show not reaching a wide enough audience; and ultimately, not making enough profit. We can't expect Disney to willingly lose money for the sake of creating a good product, because that's not what businesses do. |
But we
can fault them for mishandling the show, which I think a lot of people here are doing. (And justifiably so, IMO. The long hiatus, unannounced schedule shifts, and general lack of enthusiasm in promoting the show didn't do it any favors, and whether or not making it a Disney X.D exclusive was a wise move is debatable.)
Simply put, the show deserved better. Other quality shows that have underperformed in the ratings have been given more time to realize their potential and gone on to succeed. Tron: Uprising is worth that investment. Give the show a second season in a good, stable timeslot and actually promote it
properly and I think they'd see the kind of viewer numbers they're looking for.
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:Tron Uprising is good, but it isn't flawless. It isn't some holy grail of television perfection; there were MANY flaws in the story. |
Seriously? I can (and have) pointed out many story flaws in Legacy, whereas I can't really find fault with the writing in Uprising.
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:I, for one, don't like prequels such as this, because when you think about it, if Beck was ever going to be very successful with his 'uprising', Legacy wouldn't have happened. He may have ended up defeating Tesler and taking back Argon, which will probably be great for his little city, but we knew from the start that nothing Beck would ever do would be great enough to create a change in the grid. |
Does Argon really look like a
little city to you? And how do you measure success?
One of the nice things about Uprising is that it's given us a much better sense of the sheer scale of the Grid. There's a lot more there than Tron City, Flynn's safehouse, and the portal. Uprising gives the impression that Clu's built an empire with Tron City as the capitol, and while he rules the heart of the system with an iron fist, his control isn't as absolute in these cities out on the periphery.
Not only is Beck getting out there and fighting for the people of Argon, he's inspiring
them to fight back against the Occupation. No one program would be able to singlehandedly overthrow Clu from within the Grid, but I'd like to think that the fact that there are multiple anti-Clu factions out there by the time of Legacy owes at least a little to the Renegade, as word of his acts of defiance spread through the Grid and inspired other programs to start rising up during that thousand-cycle period.
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:There are plot holes everywhere, and the characters are a little bland. Don't see what I mean? How does Beck, a mechanic, become not only a legendarily skilled fighter, but also is able to take multiple highly trained guards in a fight and win every single time? If Tron is able to train him well enough to handle that kind of combat, then shouldn't he also be fit to take on the guards without having to worry about his scars? Not only is this all unexplained, but it makes Beck hard to relate to. He's not an underdog, he kicks everybody's ass without having to show any sort of struggle. |
Nothing you described there would qualify as a plot hole.
It's pretty clear those "highly trained guards" are just mooks, most likely repurposed strays and conscripts. They're the equivalent of Star Wars stormtroopers. It would be fairer to compare Beck to Tesler, Paige and Pavel, and when he's squared off against them, he's had to work hard to win (and hasn't always done so - he's needed saving on more than one occasion now.)
As far as Tron goes, he needs constant trips to the healing chamber to keep him from keeling over. If he runs out of energy, he dies, unlike other programs. He's a sprinter, not a distance runner. He can train Beck at the lair, sure - the healing chamber's right there, so he can always step into it between practices if he has to. He can even intervene to save Beck out in the field if he absolutely needs to. But overexerting himself is guaranteed to be fatal. The implications were clear when Dyson spelled out just what he'd done to Tron's code.
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:He's always successful, and not ONCE in the show so far have I been legitimately worried about the outcome. Even when Tesler was almost strangling him to death with his creepy Extendo-Arms, we knew that Beck would either miraculously win, or that Daddy Tron (well, okay, so it was Abel) would come to save him. |
Let's be fair here. How many action-adventure movies or shows do you know of where the lead character is in genuine danger of dying? I mean, did you seriously expect Sam to get ganked during the disc battle with Rinzler in Legacy?
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:EDIT: The main thing I am worried about is that this will effect TRON 3. It's clear that Disney's strategy was to gauge interest in the franchise based on how successful this show is. It's proven to be not as well appreciated as Disney hoped, which may not bode well for the film franchise. |
I'm more concerned with Uprising as a thing in its own right than I am with how it might affect a possible Tron 3, honestly. (Unless they intend to have some characters from Legacy play a role in Tron 3 somehow, which is something I'd totally get behind.) All indications are that Disney's moving forward with a sequel regardless.