That's bad karma, man.
Baaaaaaaaaad karma.

Todd's generally expressed my feelings on this matter, but then it occoured to me that we are referring to the worst-case scenario. Is it not possible that the writers might appreciate Tron and try their best to stay true to the spirit? It's true, I would have much perfered a Tron 2.0 (adaptation of the game or simply a Tron sequel) however a remake isn't nesscessarily bad. (just 90% likely it will be)
It's a tough delimma. Do we support Tron because otherwise it might not see the light of day? Or do we avoid supporting something that we fear may ruin the Tron we know and love?
Of course, I'd love to know what Steven thinks...

Hmm. Is this my RezDay Present?

guygg Wrote:I seriously doubt a movie like this would end up a straight-to-video release. To do something like Tron at all would require a good amount of production and money no matter how cheaply you do it, and to put a tough production like that straight to video is pretty stupid from a simple business standpoint. I doubt even Disney is that dimwitted.

If you were to make the original Tron with the same quality effects using todays technology, it would cost about $35,000. Disney would have to spend more than that, probably around a few million dollars. That's pocket change in terms of modern movie budgets, and could definitely turn a profit with a direct to video release. Disney also seems to be particularly fond of direct to video part 2s lately.

Dude. I just wrote a mega post, but the board's error happened again and I lost it all. I had it saved to my clipboard but then started working on something else where I saved something else to my clipboard. I came back here and saw it timed-out. By then, I had already overwritten what was in my clipboard from here. Duuuuuude, I'm not very happy right now as it was probably my longest post ever here. Auric, DaveTRON, etc... if the forum keeps ANY records of our submissions -- the ones that get lost in the forum timeout errors -- please bring mine back. *sigh* It happened probably 5 or 10 minutes ago.

Thanks for posting those, Corruption! I was planning to do that, but hadn't yet.

Regarding the remake, I saw the following post (see below) at Aint-It-Cool-News. The part where it says, "no one saw the original" is true. Practically everyone I mention Tron to has never heard of it or thinks it was dumb. You see the same ignorance and cluelessness in Jimmy Kimmel Live's 'TronGuy' clips. Nobody knows about it or has taken the time to understand/appreciate it. So, then, what's the big deal in remaking it? It will give people another chance to see it, and it might help it earn some overdue respect. Just my $.02. We're already Tron fans. What do we have to lose? We can always just avoid the remake like the plague and forever watch the 1982 classic if it's released. I know I won't be doing that, but those who aren't thrilled about this news can.

If Disney backs out of this simply because even Tron fanatics despise the very thought of it, we're teetering on the edge of seeing Tron go dormant for another 20 years. That would be a disservice to those who want to see Tron kept alive and full of energy. As I see it, there's nothing to lose and everything to gain. If the remake is nixed and no sequel put into it's place, I'll always wonder "What if?" And I'll forever wonder why the Tron fans were so selfish *sigh* Choose not to watch it if you don't want to see it, but don't stir up so much negativity that Disney finds it necessary to cancel the project so none of us get to see it. Perhaps they'd launch a video game remake of Tron at the same time as the movie. You just never know what else could be in store if another Tron movie comes out.

If they ruin the remake, so be it... we'll always have the 1982 classic to fall back on. Just keep that in mind before stirring any more controversy...

From: BigTuna Subject: Why make a sequel to a 1982 bomb? Home I don't see why so many here and Harry think a sequel is the way to go. With a remake, you can now update the special effects and tell the story again. No one saw Tron when it first came out so I don't see how in this case, a sequel is a good idea.

Let's discuss the actual announcement. Here is what Variety reported:

Disney has hired screenwriters Brian Klugman and Lee Sternthal to fashion a remake of "Tron," the 1982 film about a computer programmer who gets sucked into the parallel world of a computer program.

The original pic, written and directed by Steven Lisberger, was considered ahead of its time, from its fixation with computer programming to its cutting-edge rotoscope graphics. Klugman and Sternthal, who just wrote the historical epic "Warrior" for Gavin O'Connor to direct and Icon to produce, feel that the world has caught up with Lisberger's original concept, making it ripe for redo. It will be supervised by Brigham Taylor.

"It was remembered not only for story, but a visual style that nobody had ever used before," said Klugman, who recalls dumping many quarters into the arcade game spawned by the film. "We are contemporizing it, taking these ideas that were ahead of the curve and applying them to the present, and we feel the film now has a chance to resonate with a young audience."

Sternthal said the new conceit is that the computer programmer gets trapped in a cyberworld, so that the film can utilize the Internet.

"In a lot of ways, ('Tron') was a movie about a man venturing into hell. Our job will be to keep the humanity as he ventures into an unreal world."

The scribes take the job as they near an end to writing "Black Cat," based on the 1940s Harvey comic book character of a stuntwoman who becomes a vigilante on the streets of Los Angeles. Michael Uslan produces the pic to be directed by Chuck Russell.

That's the story.

I had lunch with Steven yesterday and he was as unaware of this as all of us were.

The fact of the matter is that nobody knows anything other than two writers have been hired. The assumption is that it's out of Steven's hands, and that is an easy leap to make, but nobody has actually said anything to him, so perhaps no news is good news?

I think it would be wise for all of us to wait and see what happens next before we condemn it or glorify it.

I have to jump on the BSG analogy here. I love the original BSG series, I even enjoyed Galactica 1980 to a small degree. I purposely avoided the remake last year and I only saw it two weeks ago on NBC. I can't believe I missed out on it all this time.

As much as I love the original BSG, this new version is so much better in so many ways. The campiness of the original is gone and is replaced by a grittyness and humanity that I really liked. I now love two versions of BSG, and they are separate and distinct entities in my mind. Wouldn't mind seeing further episodes of the old school version someday.

As for TRON, slightly different scenario. The story (yes, it had a story for those idiots who keep saying it didn't) was fresh and timely in 1981/82. It is not going to work today.

The Internet did exist and was acknowledged in a form in the first film by the MCPs incursions into other systems. It just wasn't called the Internet yet, we didn't all have instant access to it. So the fact that they think that's a big add-on to this movie scares the living crap out of me.

Who are these guys? How do people who have claim to only two scripts have the right to even touch TRON? I really want to know more about them. Are they even old enough to have really been there? I lived that time period, I know why the movie resonated with me and I hope they have the same experieince or we will get modern Hollywood crap out of this.

Keep in mind that Richard Jefferies was brought in a couple of years ago to write TRON 2 and I can tell you that his script sucked. I have a copy. Steven's version prior to that, which I also have, was better, but still needed work. Jefferies didin't move forward because Cold Creek Manor stiffed, and likely because his script sucked too.

Steven has handed them a TRON 2 story that I personally want to see made. I loved<

Davetron, about that script that Steven showed you that you want to see made, does it fit with the storyline of the Tron 2.0 videogame? Because what really upsets me about the remake is how they sound like they're going to trample all over Tron 2.0's storyline. If Tron 2.0 had never been made, I would be much more enthusiastic about this.

I was close of have a diabetic heart attack and a facial paralysis after I knew this news.

I do not like the idea of doing a remake , the best idea is to do Tron's sequel, TRON is all a universe for new storyes, why not let a chance for the sequel?

Is incredible to know that after any more than 20 years a sequel is not chosen.
I do not feel confidence in the new persons in charge of this project.

There are movies that really must do remakes (Master Of The Universe, PLEASE!!!!) and I want see some of the next movie remakes (King Kong, Fantastic Four, Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory and Flash Gordon), but
TRON...

NOOOOOOO!!!!

I think that this is a plan of the MCP to return!!!

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Of course it's a business decision. It's the only kind Disney knows how to make. What will get us money? It doesn't have to be good.

Look at the news in the past few weeks. Bad reviews for TRON Xbox, new writers doing a remake of the original film, and now a third party developing a game on yet another platform. This is all diluting TRON, not bringing it to a boil.

I'm worried that there is so much information coming at once. This is not good for the future in my opinion. I will bet somebody $1.00 right here and now that the remake never happens.

I loved the old Amiga 500 game called Pirates!. I wish they never would've remade it.

I loved the old Doom game. I wish they never would've remade it.

I loved the 1916 version of Phantom of the Opera. I wish they never remade it 10 other times; and most of all I wish they had never made it into a musical.

I loved the 1933 version of King Kong. I wish they never would've remade it (several times).

I loved the song "Unchained Melody" by Al Hibbler. I wish the Righteous Brothers and others never would've remade it.

I loved Tron. I hope they never remake it.

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There just isn't enough room in this world for remakes, imo.