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Daddyo
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Tuesday, March, 02, 2010 7:10 PM
Do you wan't me to finish the "disaster awaits" article for you?

"Shortly after midnight on May 10, 1996, the Adventure Consultants expedition began a summit attempt from Camp IV, atop the South Col (7,900 m/25,900 ft). They were joined by six client climbers, three guides and Sherpas from Scott Fischer's Mountain Madness company, as well as an expedition sponsored by the government of Taiwan"

Refers to a mount everest expedition disaster in 1996, nearly the same date as the article. Funny thing is, the event happens AFTER the article was dated hehe - oops.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Everest_disaster


 
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Tuesday, March, 02, 2010 10:14 PM
Daddyo Wroteo you wan't me to finish the "disaster awaits" article for you?

"Shortly after midnight on May 10, 1996, the Adventure Consultants expedition began a summit attempt from Camp IV, atop the South Col (7,900 m/25,900 ft). They were joined by six client climbers, three guides and Sherpas from Scott Fischer's Mountain Madness company, as well as an expedition sponsored by the government of Taiwan"

Refers to a mount everest expedition disaster in 1996, nearly the same date as the article. Funny thing is, the event happens AFTER the article was dated hehe - oops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Everest_disaster

How'd you know what the rest of the article said?
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Daddyo
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Tuesday, March, 02, 2010 10:53 PM
I've always been good at extrapolating.

It's taken word for word out of that wikipedia link. I googled the article. You could try googling other article clipping bits, but I'd guess there'd not be much to that?


 
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Tuesday, March, 02, 2010 10:58 PM
@Traan_

LOL. Better not be cheezy. Scary would be cool, because I'm weird like that.

I hate when some of those movies tell you put the glasses on half way through the movie.

The nice thing about Avatar is that they told you to put the glasses on before the movie actually started.

@Cam_the_Man_

If you save the image and open it you can see the portion that is cut off from the articles.

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VRAM
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Tuesday, March, 02, 2010 11:20 PM
Right. How interesting...

I really didn't pay much attention to what Myestro and Cam the man posted in the last couple of pages until now... but you know something guys? You're right!!! The differences in these "articles" are subtle but obvious at the same time! And the awesome find Daddyo just made involving the worst tragedy in the climbing history of Mount Everest relates somehow to some of my own 'discoveries' at the beginning of this thread...

We must be close...

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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 12:02 AM
TechFalcon Wrote:Random thought: What if the images they're releasing as part of the countdown to the trailer have codes hidden in them?

I got excited too...but if you look at the header image it says" BE THE FIRST TO SEE THE TRON TRAILER IN 3D AND IMAX 3D WITH ALICE IN WONDERLAND ON MARCH 5TH!"

My guess is we are not supposed to discover the Trailer...quite yet...otherwise Disney would be falsely advertising should a viral trailer leak out before that date.


 
Daddyo
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 12:08 AM
So your post about 1/3 down http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=top&id=372604&pg=1 regarding other Kevin Flynns all adds up to me that somebody found a real "Kevin Flynn" and used articles & ideas from his life to conjure up ideas for the ARG?


 
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 12:24 AM
..just a theory and a prediction based on developing info:

...we might be asked to stage a protest against ENCOM in real life at an upcoming convention of some sort.

Merrick at Ain't It Cool News mentions: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44125

"Upcoming ENCOM Press Conference

I hear ENCOM may be holding a press conference of some sort at a forthcoming convention - no word on whether CEO Alan Bradley might publicly address the marked upswing in Flynn Lives tagging and propaganda appearing both on the Internet, and across various visible locations across the country."


AND then you read the most "recent" posts at Flynnlives.com/discussionforums

note the date is Feb 23 2010 (very recent and up to date)

http://www.flynnlives.com/discussionforums/post.aspx?id=17

"Re: EncomInternational - What's Their Deal?
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True, but we can't rely on the scant few activists like Alan Bradley to do things for us; we need to rally in the streets, stand up and raise our voices."

and then you connect the dot to my previous post about the spy pics of Tron Legacy Movie - with extras spotted during filming with "flynn Lives" t-shirt during a post 1989 era scene - the year Kevin Flynn dissapears...

...maybe we can assume the Flynn Lives organization of that era is protesting the dissapearance of Kevin Flynn in that scene.

On a side note - One more tidbit I was thinkin about is the posting that you get on Facebook when you link accounts:

"...Get on your lightcycle and join the hunt for the man… and the search for the next Digital Frontier."

stepping back from all the puzzles and looking at the ARG as a story and interactive narrative - I belive our overarching task as the operatives of Flynn Lives organization is to find PROOF that Kevin Flynn Lives and seek out the next Digital Frontier.

in regards to this digital frontier: according to this article online about Tron movie:
http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/art-entertainment/flynn-tron-legacy-producer-preserving-original-tron-dna-and-more

"Another choice that we made collectively -- and that I really like -- is that this isn't a movie about the internet. We're going to say that this system of TRON -- this universe that Steven created -- existed in a world on its own, sort of like the Galapagos Islands. This is a universe unto itself. We're going into another world. This isn't about the World Wide Web at all.

SL: It's almost like Flynn got to create the future of the internet... but only his version. It’s his own little fiefdom. His virtual world."

I think we already knew this - but it seems like the world of TRON might just exist at the "Home of Tron" (on the servers in the back room of Flynn's Arcade or maybe even at Encominternational).

...wonder if a portal will eventually open up into this world for us...just a crazy thought for the ARG....thinking some new evetual rabbithole offshoot of Home of Tron or EncomInternational.

Thanks for listening.


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Daddyo
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 12:34 AM
myestro Wrote:stepping back from all the puzzles and looking at the ARG as a story and interactive narrative - I belive our overarching task as the operatives of Flynn Lives organization is to find PROOF that Kevin Flynn Lives and seek out the next Digital Frontier.
I'm pretty certain you are to prove he exists by figuring out the LC drawings, per http://www.flynnlives.com/discussionforums/post.aspx?id=12 "We've been searching for this kind of confirmation for years" - so unscrambling that mess is probably the next step (to what who knows)

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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 1:04 AM
Daddyo Wrote:
myestro Wrote:stepping back from all the puzzles and looking at the ARG as a story and interactive narrative - I belive our overarching task as the operatives of Flynn Lives organization is to find PROOF that Kevin Flynn Lives and seek out the next Digital Frontier.
I'm pretty certain you are to prove he exists by figuring out the LC drawings, per http://www.flynnlives.com/discussionforums/post.aspx?id=12 "We've been searching for this kind of confirmation for years" - so unscrambling that mess is probably the next step (to what who knows)


yeah...I agree...still scratching my head on that one...sometimes with these ARG you need the right person with the right background knowledge to figure it out and that person might not be among us right now.

on a weird note...still trying find the easter eggs...if any on those 5 original newsclippings. (I belive nothing ever came of these...and still stuck on the fact why did they give us the first article again...why?) is it just background fiction filler - part of the story or are they really hard riddle clues.

The one that says "Dead or In Love?" As an anagram you could also say "Dead or Live On?"...maybe just co-incidental. The IN LOVE stuck out like a sore thumb to me...Also why do they spell ENCOM as EnCom?... maybe its nothing...

Ever since VRAM's original posting on this thread I am convinced there has to be something there with these articles.... everything else seems to have a purpose - either an omen of things to come or a downright clue....except these....what are these?

the search continues...




 
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on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 1:46 AM
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 1:56 AM
Daddyo Wrote:
myestro Wrote:stepping back from all the puzzles and looking at the ARG as a story and interactive narrative - I belive our overarching task as the operatives of Flynn Lives organization is to find PROOF that Kevin Flynn Lives and seek out the next Digital Frontier.
I'm pretty certain you are to prove he exists by figuring out the LC drawings, per http://www.flynnlives.com/discussionforums/post.aspx?id=12 "We've been searching for this kind of confirmation for years" - so unscrambling that mess is probably the next step (to what who knows)



What do you think about this? http://www.colorcode.com.sg/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=27&Itemid=41

a possible color code reader?


 
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 2:17 AM
forgive me if this is mentioned in this blog - but noticed other folks on unfiction are talking about the baudot code to decipher the lightcycles

here is a realife reference from a coldplay album and how their cover is deciphered.

http://www.coldplayzone.it/_coldplay_codice_baudot.asp

looks very promising and a baudot code is comprised of 5 ("five") bits...looks like a clue to me.




 
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 6:42 AM
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 6:57 AM
TRON.dll Wrote:Concerning being unable to read articles due to them being cut short, I do know that you can scroll around through the article by holding the middle mouse button, at least in Firefox.

Yeah, I'm not saying my browser cut the image short, the newspaper image ITSELF I know for a fact cut off right through the middle of "Disaster Awaits." That, plus the color change is what alerted me to the fact that it had been replaced/updated. And I don't think they would be so careless as to accidentally change the color of something like that.... I'm pretty sure the color change is a tip-off, and the "Disaster Awaits article might be a clue, or there might be diffeernces in the physical clippings that came with the TRON wallets.
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 7:23 AM
Cam_the_Man Wrote:And I don't think they would be so careless as to accidentally change the color of something like that....

Oddly enough, that seems to me like exactly the sort of thing that could slip through the production cracks. Like, the original graphic was further discolored at the last minute before it was posted, and then when it was updated, they forgot that step.

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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 10:57 AM
myestro Wrote:What do you think about this? http://www.colorcode.com.sg/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=27&Itemid=41

a possible color code reader?
Aye carumba, what a odd & interesting idea. Beats people taking pictures of bar codes I guess. Someone outta try it. I noticed that the "standard" color codes are 5x5 blocks...of four colors. We dont have only 4 main colors of red-green-blue-black though. I think the color blocks have to be rectangular http://www.colorcode.com.sg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=52 Maybe it can read through the noise on the cycle pictures. Great idea for this kind of thing. I can't imagine why baudot code was used in other ARGs, but they did.
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on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 12:50 PM
Reading the wiki article about this event that happened AFTER the date on the article (which seems like it may be made to look as if it's from Investor's Business Daily), the related links point to the IMAX film Everest. Just thinking it may be a subtle nod to the 5 (there's that damn number again) IMAX-sized action scenes in the film. I haven't hunted around the other stub articles from the clippings yet.


 
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on Wednesday, March, 03, 2010 11:09 PM
I had the day off so wrote a program to automatically generate the decoded light cycle images. Don't know if the result is any different from anyone elses, but here's the results:

http://www.outtaether.com/shared/2b.bmp
http://www.outtaether.com/shared/3.bmp
The 1st one took two steps (seemed simpler) and the 2nd one took three. I had a pattern of processing going, but had to manually figure out the detect row (highest black line looking at pics at normal rotation) and the raster wrap and shift values.

I think I'll continue going the pattern I was using to continue working on the lower sections, but I don't know... If you've any ideas or you have Visual Basic 6 I'd be happy to share it so you can figure it out yourselves.


 
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Re: TRON LEGACY/FLYNN LIVES OFFICIAL ARG

on Thursday, March, 04, 2010 12:44 AM
Ok. I used good 'ol "brute force" and just created boxes of color over what are obviously color bars.

I did this test on the first lightcycle photo.

I didn't waste my time trying to shift pixels...if more than 50% of the area looked green..orange...red...etc...I did a photoshop bucket fill into the area to create a color block.

there were two rows that were off alignment slightly - but I nudged them to the right or left respectively.

I also eliminated what appears to be duplicate data

Then in Illustrator I cleaned up the file using square blocks.

Interesting enough...I get 5 rows of 20 blocks

maybe 5 codes of 20 characters? I heard the derez site accepts up to 20 characters...but then again there are two photos...

so now - how do you decipher what the colors are?

baudot code is binary - on or off...

Baudot is 5bit binary...so it could still be possible if we knew the colors...

If it is Baudot...then this is a 20 character answer.

scratching my head on this one still - but I think we are very close....yet so far.

http://s786.photobucket.com/albums/yy146/myestro/Flynn%20Lives%20Clues/?action=view¤t=bruteforcecolorbars1.jpg

here is the link to the file I created that cleanly "represents" the 5 rows of 20 color pixels.

what's funny is on flynn lives facebook info section it says "but the truth is beginning to emerge in fractured pixels and enigmatic data."

Fractured Pixels is right! most clues we've got so far are little "bits" of information (excuse the pun).

I hope someone can figure this out soon....



 
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