1. My theory is that Flynn wanted a new system because it wasn't exactly supposed to be a real system. The ENCOM system is programs doing what they were designed to do, and nothing else. Flynn's system, since it's created from the inside, is a system designed to be a world, if you catch my drift. I can explain it in a more detailed way, if anybody doesn't get it. Also, I'm sure he didn't want everyone at ENCOM watching what he does.

2. As with the real life programs like Word and Excel, there are obviously multiple copies of these programs. Flynn either copied Tron to his own system, or moved Tron than put a copy in the old system.

3. Since the ENCOM system is still alive (most likely) (probably upgraded and alot different) I'm guessing that Yori is still there. Since the next movie will obviously have EdJr. as the villain, and since the fate of Flynn's grid at the end of the movie is ambiguous, that TR3N will take place on the ENCOM grid- which would make it easier for everything they're so obviously planning to fit into place. I'm willing to bet Yori will be a part of the next film.


Your idea of Flynn shutting the ENCOM system down after moving all the programs is highly illogical- this is a system owned and run and managing a fortune 500 company. The original system is not Flynn's, it's ENCOM's. He can't just "shut it down". where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

LWSrocks2 Wrote:Your idea of Flynn shutting the ENCOM system down after moving all the programs is highly illogical- this is a system owned and run and managing a fortune 500 company. The original system is not Flynn's, it's ENCOM's. He can't just "shut it down".

Think it through. We're talking about an expanse of several years where computers were advancing rapidly. It's conceivable, even likely, that the system we saw in TRON was not only upgraded here and there, but eventually replaced altogether with new equipment.

That goes for programs as well. As technology advances, Yori probably became obsolete as far as practical use goes. That's in case you want to try to tell me she would've be relocated to the newer ENCOM computers. That's doubtful.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

Grid-Dweller Wrote: LWSrocks2 Wrote:Your idea of Flynn shutting the ENCOM system down after moving all the programs is highly illogical- this is a system owned and run and managing a fortune 500 company. The original system is not Flynn's, it's ENCOM's. He can't just "shut it down". Think it through. We're talking about an expanse of several years where computers were advancing rapidly. It's conceivable, even likely, that the system we saw in TRON was not only upgraded here and there, but eventually replaced altogether with new equipment. That goes for programs as well. As technology advances, Yori probably became obsolete as far as practical use goes. That's in case you want to try to tell me she would've be relocated to the newer ENCOM computers. That's doubtful.

Alright, okay, you have a good point. It's likely Yori didn't make it- in the sense of THAT EXACT Yori. I mean, what if when Yori became obsolete, Lora developed a NEW program to control the Shiva laser? It wouldn't be Yori, but it could be named Yori and would look like Yori. It seems to me like the most plausible way of bringing Yori/Lora back- because you know they will. With all of this fan uproar, there's no way they could not have Yori in the 3rd installment. They're finding a way to have Ram come back, and Ram was alot less important than Yori to the ENCOM system- I have faith that Disney will come up with a way.

Grid-Dweller Wrote: LWSrocks2 Wrote:Actually, I find it pretty easy to believe he would've left Yori behind. Remember when Flynn and Ram were supposedly derezzed by the tanks during their escape from the game grid? He shouted "NO!" and than seemingly never showed any thought of it again. He's a warrior on a religious mission. If a human were in TRON's exact position, you could find a lot of the same stoic behavior. I'd have to disagree. Sure, they may react better to it than someone else, but I've seen more emotional responses come out of people who lose game progress when they forget to save, or people who just accidentally dropped their wallet off of a cliff. Think about it- Tron just saw two lives get taken away. I don't think "religious mission" would cause a less emotional reaction, I honestly think it's just the emotional limitations of being a program. You're next argument may be that he'd only just met Flynn and Ram, but there's no evidence to support that Tron and Yori have known each other that long anyways. "I knew you'd escape. They haven't built a circuit that could hold you yet." The way they act toward one another, what they say... sure, it isn't pure evidence, but it strongly hints they go back a ways. Alright, sure. But at least the point of programs having limited emotional capabilities still stands.

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TRON.dll Wrote:Probably Tron. Tron is Alan's program, and Alan can update him as he sees fit. This isn't covered in Legacy since Legacy is about The Grid, and not the Encom system. I think Flynn copied Tron to The Grid, since it would have been easier to use an efficient security program that already exists instead of writing a new one from scratch.

The way Flynn words it makes it sound like he brought in the Tron from the old system. Nonetheless, Tron from T:L could have been a copy, and Flynn inaccurately worded his recounting.

Just because the Encom system isn't in Legacy doesn't mean it was destroyed. I would think that it was upgraded over time along with most of the programs in it.

Here, already covered this:

Think it through. We're talking about an expanse of several years where computers were advancing rapidly. It's conceivable, even likely, that the system we saw in TRON was not only upgraded here and there, but eventually replaced altogether with new equipment. That goes for programs as well. As technology advances, Yori probably became obsolete as far as practical use goes. That's in case you want to try to tell me she would've be relocated to the newer ENCOM computers. That's doubtful.

I don't think we have yet figured out here a plausible explanation for what may have happened to Yori. All I can come up with is that some point she maybe got killed by Clu somehow. Because I can't see her standing for the whole Rinzler thing.

As far as the system...machines go obsolete. Hell, i haven't yet recycled my old desktop that died, nor my mom's, but they were about 8-9 and 10-11 years old, respectively, when they finally went. It happens. What are you going to do, keep upgrading the hardware forever? To me it seems just an accepted thing: the original mainframe is long gone. That's no more tragic than any other computer replacement, from a user standpoint. Especially a business would replace equipment more often than a private person would. Several months ago they replaced all of our workstations at work. Nothing was wrong with them as far as I could see--they must've just decided they were too old. It happens.

I personally can't think why Flynn would WANT to take a weird, secret, new personal project and put it on a work server. That would be the last place I'd take it. Someone might see the system log. Someone might wonder why you spend so much time in the digitization lab. Someone might wonder what all this new software is and delete it. Someone might get on you for using work resources for your personal stuff. No way.

He didn't leave the original server "to its own devices" in an "irresponsible" manner. That system was functioning just fine without him for who knows how long before he ever went near the laser. He popped in once, got rid of a troublesome program....how does that make it so the server is just unable to function without him forever after, then?

And why couldn't Flynn move the original Tron and a replacement copy be put on the Encom server? Programs can be copied. You want two of them, no big deal. You want to replace one with another, great. Or maybe they came up with something else and Flynn thought, "hell, nobody needs Tron here anymore, I'll take him." For all we know he was about to be deleted in favor of the next best thing and Flynn saved him.


As far as not being emotional...there are a lot of scenes in T:L where even users aren't that emotional. I mean, take the end. Tron sacrifices himself for Flynn AGAIN. Nobody even ACKNOWLEDGES that, let alone implies that they feel bad that good ol' Tron is gone. Sam sees his dad die, and while he is pretty shocked and grief-stricken in the Grid, once he's back to the real world he looks pensive about it for a minute, then bops upstairs and gets all smiley with Alan and Quorra and you'd think nothing had happened. Etc.where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online

Kat Wrote:I don't think we have yet figured out here a plausible explanation for what may have happened to Yori. All I can come up with is that some point she maybe got killed by Clu somehow. Because I can't see her standing for the whole Rinzler thing. I don't think Yori was ever even brought to the new system, actually. As far as the system...machines go obsolete. Hell, i haven't yet recycled my old desktop that died, nor my mom's, but they were about 8-9 and 10-11 years old, respectively, when they finally went. It happens. What are you going to do, keep upgrading the hardware forever? To me it seems just an accepted thing: the original mainframe is long gone. That's no more tragic than any other computer replacement, from a user standpoint. Especially a business would replace equipment more often than a private person would. Several months ago they replaced all of our workstations at work. Nothing was wrong with them as far as I could see--they must've just decided they were too old. It happens. Right. Although, you see- Lora Baines was still developing for Encom, for all we know she's been working there forever. So, my personal theory is that when the supercomputer from the first film was replaced, that Lora developed- and I mean, she had to- a new program, possibly named something akin to Yori 2.0 (or like Ma3a) to control the Shiva laser. Whether this new Yori will have the same memories and affection for Tron as her predecessor, that leaves room for some exploration. I personally can't think why Flynn would WANT to take a weird, secret, new personal project and put it on a work server. That would be the last place I'd take it. Someone might see the system log. Someone might wonder why you spend so much time in the digitization lab. Someone might wonder what all this new software is and delete it. Someone might get on you for using work resources for your personal stuff. No way. This is exactly what I was trying to say, but I couldn't word it correctly. He didn't leave the original server "to its own devices" in an "irresponsible" manner. That system was functioning just fine without him for who knows how long before he ever went near the laser. He popped in once, got rid of a troublesome program....how does that make it so the server is just unable to function without him forever after, then? Another thing I wanted to say, but didn't word correctly. And why couldn't Flynn move the original Tron and a replacement copy be put on the Encom server? Programs can be copied. You want two of them, no big deal. You want to replace one with another, great. Or maybe they came up with something else and Flynn thought, "hell, nobody needs Tron here anymore, I'll take him." For all we know he was about to be deleted in favor of the next best thing and Flynn saved him. Yeah, personally I don't understand all of the confusion surrounding this issue. There are thousands of plausible explanations that it hardly seems worth debating. As far as not being emotional...there are a lot of scenes in T:L where even users aren't that emotional. I mean, take the end. Tron sacrifices himself for Flynn AGAIN. Nobody even ACKNOWLEDGES that, let alone implies that they feel bad that good ol' Tron is gone. Sam sees his dad die, and while he is pretty shocked and grief-stricken in the Grid, once he's back to the real world he looks pensive about it for a minute, then bops upstairs and gets all smiley with Alan and Quorra and you'd think nothing had happened. Etc. Right. Although, personally I think that in the original it was because they intended for programs to be just not very emotional, but I think in Legacy it was a problem with the writing.

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Grid-Dweller Wrote: Kat Wrote:He didn't leave the original server "to its own devices" in an "irresponsible" manner. That system was functioning just fine without him for who knows how long before he ever went near the laser. But that was with TRON as its protector, and he's gone from it now.

But as I said, he could have been copied, or replaced with a different security system entirely...and if the latter, it would explain why Flynn felt free to take him and why he would agree to leave.

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Actually, in my fanfic, the way I had it work out is that after the whole MCP thing, the Board was like, "Great, Bradley's program did its job and got rid of the MCP, now we need a real security program that has a bit more broad of a purpose" and commission a bunch of programmers to write one. They won't listen to Alan's protests that Tron IS a broad-purpose program that wasn't just written to get rid of the MCP, and bam, Flynn says "well damn, I'll take Tron then" and he does.

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