trekking95 User
 Posts: 2,440 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 4:58 AM
I don't mean you in particular, I am just saying how people want it. Your opinion is fine but has nothing to do with that.
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![]() Posts: 298 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 5:02 AM
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![]() Posts: 298 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 5:23 AM
mastercilinder Wrote:The animated series will turn heads, regardless of good or bad writing, because it's so beautiful and technically amazing that lots of people are going to latch onto it. A few of my chums agreed as well. They knew nothing about TRON or what I described to them, but they all watched the teaser with me in awe.
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Yes the teaser is stupendous, though my fear is the main body of work may fall short of its attention to detail.
mastercilinder Wrote:This is obviously a gateway for TR3N's production. They're obviously investing in it's popularity, even taking the time to put it in random projects like the Disney Universe games. Why would they ever stop there? |
I would refrain from viewing it as a footstool for TR3N. I'm not quite seeing the link between this and the possibility of a third film as you are. But time will tell.
mastercilinder Wrote:(The whole "Laura Dern" comparison doesn't make any sense. The Lost World was actually based on the sequel to the Jurassic Park novel and Ian Malcom is the only character that comes back. Jurassic Park 3 was not based on a novel and the guy playing Grant was the only guy available . . . also it sucked, hard, but that's just me.) |
I think the analogy has been blown a little out of proportion. In truth it is a lot less intricate. Here are the definite parallels:
- Both Boxleitner and Dern were rumored to be involved with a future sequel.
- Both stated in almost unequivocal terms that a sequel was happening, yet weren't backed up by any other member of the team.(Correct me if wrong on Dern)
Addition: Also, The Lost World was published in 1995, 2 years after Jurassic Park the movie came out, if that means anything to you.
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 Posts: 248 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 5:51 AM
I'm looking forward to the animated series. I have relatively low expectations for it, seeing as the universe is more fascinating for what it implies than what it shows. That, and a girl needs her fanfic fuel.
Besides, Mr. Boxleitner proves he's either got hellish bills, loves the franchise, or both by stepping up to the plate again. And if we get ANY explanation on what happened to Yori (especially since Ms. Morgan's been lobbying to get dealt back into the game), I'm breaking out the beer and crossing my fingers that they aren't going to shove her in the fridge with Jordan Canas.
It's an entire universe in there, one we created, but it's beyond us now. Really. It's outgrown us. You know, every time you shut off your computer...do you know what you're doing? Have you ever reformatted a hard drive? Deleted old software? Destroyed an entire universe?"
-- Jet Bradley, Tron: Ghost in the Machine on why being a User isn't necessarily a good thing. |
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![]() Posts: 118 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 8:16 AM
There are certainly some bad episodes of Clone Wars and some poorly written ones, but when its good I am often surprised by how good. I was floored by the recent four-part General Krell story line. It had some very strong themes for a show considered to be geared to kids.
I know it has been theorized that Tron: Uprising was the last thing that would help Disney decide to pursue another feature film, but I'm not sure I could find any quotes to back that up. I do believe Disney was pleased with the home video sales and that while the film performed a bit less than they hoped in theaters it performed better than expected on DVD and Blu-Ray. Since then it became streaming on Netflix and I've even noticed it on ads to lure people to subscribe. The other day I picked up a pamphlet on the Nook Tablet which will run Netflix and Tron: Legacy was one of the examples of what you could watch on the device on the front cover of the pamphlet.
If anything the Tron name is certainly not something Disney is embarrassed by.
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 Posts: 248 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 1:12 PM
Oscar.
Which is something of a fun bit of irony, seeing as The Mouse seemed to spend the better part of the 80's and 90's going "Um...that was an experiment we don't talk about." Remember that the video game brought in more revenue. The Intellivision games were also moderate sellers, with Deadly Disks being the best remembered of the lot.
About 15 years later they realize that it's inspired half the special effects artists and CGI houses ("Without Tron, there's be no Toy Story"). Then Square Enix signs off on the ultimate Crack Fic Crossover (Final Fantasy and Disney, in theory, should not work) and the first thing out Square is "We want to make a level based around Tron!" A smaller factor might be some of the Babylon 5 fans who wanted a good, head-trippy chuckle over the future Captain and Centauri Ambassador.
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It's an entire universe in there, one we created, but it's beyond us now. Really. It's outgrown us. You know, every time you shut off your computer...do you know what you're doing? Have you ever reformatted a hard drive? Deleted old software? Destroyed an entire universe?"
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trekking95 User
 Posts: 2,440 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 4:05 PM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:trekking95 Wrote:I don't mean you in particular, I am just saying how people want it. Your opinion is fine but has nothing to do with that. |
Right, sorry then, but the post you quoted seems a bit out of place if you weren't referring to it. |
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mastercilinder User
 Posts: 399 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 4:34 PM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:Addition: Also, The Lost World was published in 1995, 2 years after Jurassic Park the movie came out, if that means anything to you. |
Ehhh . . . I don't think that really changed anything. It's obviously a change of pace. I don't know 2 years should have been enough time to properly adapt it anyway. The novel was pretty good.
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Kat User
 Posts: 2,395 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 7:04 PM
But here we are assuming they'll be making Tron... without... Tron. Which gets a big WTF???? from me.
Now, mind you, I hope that's not what they're trying to set up with this whole animated series thing ("I'm looking for the next Tron" like they think they're going to pass the torch so they don't have to figure out how to de-age Bruce or whatever reason they would have to phase him out), and I'm sorry but I think it would be a total flop to try it, but... really. I don't even want to entertain the notion of a Tron movie without Tron in it (minimal Tron in T:L was bad enough). Would rather just end the franchise, thanks. What would be the point? What would they call it?
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![]() Posts: 298 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 7:29 PM
OscarGungan Wrote:I know it has been theorized that Tron: Uprising was the last thing that would help Disney decide to pursue another feature film, but I'm not sure I could find any quotes to back that up. |
Indeed, but considering they'll probably draw two different kinds of audiences, this is arguable, but not unreasonable.
OscarGungan Wrote:I do believe Disney was pleased with the home video sales and that while the film performed a bit less than they hoped in theaters it performed better than expected on DVD and Blu-Ray. Since then it became streaming on Netflix and I've even noticed it on ads to lure people to subscribe. The other day I picked up a pamphlet on the Nook Tablet which will run Netflix and Tron: Legacy was one of the examples of what you could watch on the device on the front cover of the pamphlet.
If anything the Tron name is certainly not something Disney is embarrassed by.
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Not being an embarrassment is a good start, but it still doesn't say they'll not never invest in more.
Kat Wrote:But here we are assuming they'll be making Tron... without... Tron. Which gets a big WTF???? from me.
Now, mind you, I hope that's not what they're trying to set up with this whole animated series thing ("I'm looking for the next Tron" like they think they're going to pass the torch so they don't have to figure out how to de-age Bruce or whatever reason they would have to phase him out), and I'm sorry but I think it would be a total flop to try it, but... really. I don't even want to entertain the notion of a Tron movie without Tron in it (minimal Tron in T:L was bad enough). Would rather just end the franchise, thanks. What would be the point? What would they call it?
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Hmm, who's assuming that?
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trekking95 User
 Posts: 2,440 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 7:39 PM
Just because Tron the movie is named after Tron, doesn't mean Tron has to be the main character. If they wanted to they could just show the Tron Arcade or Tron's user Alan and that would be fine. Another Tron movie would be good enough.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online
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 Posts: 2,395 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 9:12 PM
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Hmm, who's assuming that? |
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![]() Posts: 118 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Tuesday, November, 22, 2011 11:21 PM
I wouldn't be worried that Tron: Uprising is about writing Tron out of the franchise and replacing him. The series is a prequel to Legacy and Legacy never mentions the new guy and shows Tron redeemed at the end of the movie.
The show seems like it will be retcon to some extent. Like finding out that Anakin had a Padawan even though they never say it in any of the live action movies.
I'm guessing the show is about Tron seeing the writing on the wall about what CLU is up to so he tries to sow some seeds of rebellion, since Kevin Flynn is a bit clueless about what's going on.
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![]() Posts: 298 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 2:25 AM
Kat Wrote:Kaisergrendel Wrote:
Hmm, who's assuming that? |
Not sure what else you'd call it with everyone pointing out that BB hasn't been signed for it even though others have, comparing to other actors who have confirmed sequels they didn't appear in, etc. |
Nah that doesn't equate to assuming Tron isn't re-appearing. It's just hard to believe the one core actor promising a sequel because he is also the only one not signed up.Like you said Tron without Tronzler would a little farcical. It wouldn't stop me from watching it, but I will miss the character. Considering how well Hollywood is doing in terms of action movie originality, I would tread VERY lightly attempting to replace Tron (the main action character).
The Laura Dern comparison is a fear of the same thing happening, not an assumption.
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![]() Posts: 298 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 2:31 AM
OscarGungan Wrote:I wouldn't be worried that Tron: Uprising is about writing Tron out of the franchise and replacing him. The series is a prequel to Legacy and Legacy never mentions the new guy and shows Tron redeemed at the end of the movie.
The show seems like it will be retcon to some extent. Like finding out that Anakin had a Padawan even though they never say it in any of the live action movies.
I'm guessing the show is about Tron seeing the writing on the wall about what CLU is up to so he tries to sow some seeds of rebellion, since Kevin Flynn is a bit clueless about what's going on.
I guess the Clone Wars is an easy comparison because it to is set between two installments we have already seen. Its going to hopefully flesh things out but they are saving progressing the story after Tron: Legacy for hopefully another movie. |
There will be massive retcon, since Tron: Evolution features Anon, a new security program who ***SPOILER** dies at the end ***SPOILER***, and nobody mentions this "new Tron" either.
I guess replacing Tron 2.0 may be inevitable, but it has to be done with such grace and consideration, especially for fans of T:L who didn't watch T:U, but went straight to the next movie sequel.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion
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 Posts: 2,395 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 11:00 AM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:Kat Wrote:Kaisergrendel Wrote:
Hmm, who's assuming that? |
Not sure what else you'd call it with everyone pointing out that BB hasn't been signed for it even though others have, comparing to other actors who have confirmed sequels they didn't appear in, etc. |
Nah that doesn't equate to assuming Tron isn't re-appearing. It's just hard to believe the one core actor promising a sequel because he is also the only one not signed up.Like you said Tron without Tronzler would a little farcical. |
*I* think that, but that doesn't mean Disney does. Wouldn't be the first thing they've done with this franchise that I've questioned.
Of course, you all know what I think of them not signing BB yet-- I think it's all a bit of drama intended to get us riled up and they have no intention of not signing him. If nothing else, I'd think they'd need his voice, even just briefly. And I can't see him taking it lying down if they don't; he seems to care about the whole franchise way too much.
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![]() Posts: 118 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 11:16 AM
I suppose its possible that by now he is signed up to do it. I don't they'd make any kind of announcement about it until they have a release date and a name picked out. It's all about timing with the marketing department and it doesn't seem they feel a need to let us in on every turn of the screw.
I like Bruce Boxleitner but he isn't in huge demand. I can't imagine the bean counters at Disney are saying they need to ax him to make the movie more affordable. They'd lose alot more than they'd gain by not having him involved.
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 Posts: 171 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 1:09 PM
I'm too busy to read everything here but I still want to spread my opinion.
TRON 3 will not be made before 2013. Why? Because 1. they look on the Uprising run and 2. Oblivion is scheduled for 7/19/2013. So Kosinski would not have time until mid 2013 to direct if they choose him again.
However, I think some people here are very wrong. TRON Legacy forgot the kids? HELL no! Please keep the PG rating or even lift it to PG-13! The Dark Knight and Begins also forgot the kids, though it is Batman, and now have a look on how well TDK did at the BO. It would have been a success even without Ledgers tragic death (plus the movie has a far better quality than TL to be honest).
The subpart in the bracket is the key why TL just had a mediocre run. The story was confusing at some point and some scenes just did not fit right into the movie. They do not need the kids, they need good screenwriters.
I do not give anything about what Boxleitner says. Some "insiders" also said, there will be a movie after TRON 2.0. There was no movie until 2010.
400 Million dollars are not that bad of a BO run - if the budget is less than ~ 120 Million. TL just gained the production and merchandising costs - remember that only 50% of the BO sales go back to Disney.
So I'D say Tron 3 will not be in theatres before 2015. And then they might have a problem if Bridges gets too old. People want him back. If Disney does not, this would break the movies neck and we might se an even worse BO run. If the movie is not in production until 2014 / 15 then I believe there will be no sequel.
Unfortunately, TRON is not a profitable franchise for Disney. The games were BIG flops in sales (2.0) AND quality (Evolution). The movies were medicorely successful, the merchandise was not that wide spread and the series is made well but I'm worried that not many people will see it. Especially outside of America - because we do not have Disney  here and people in Germany (Top 10 country in foreign BO sales) are not ready for Pay-TV.
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![]() Posts: 118 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 2:48 PM
I do think 2013 is probably a bit early. I think if it happens it will be in 2014.
I think its a glass is half empty or half full kind of thing. It depends on perspective, especially the perspective of those making the decisions. While there was high expectations for the film in some circles, I don't know know how the film could be considered a flop or a disaster. While the original film is influential and has a devoted cult following, it was hardy remembered by the mainstream public. For Disney, to have accomplished what they did with it, was huge, even if it hadn't hit the mark entirely where some had placed it. The film did have a bigger total take than Batman Begins, Star Trek and even this year's Captain America, which is sure to get a sequel. Also, the movie dominated Blu-Ray sales for a good month.
The question Disney has to look at when making another sequel is really hard to quantify. They have to determine if there is enough momentum behind the franchise. Did they lay some kind of foundation with Tron: Legacy. I don't know if anyone can answer that question for certainty.
One thing I'm sure is being considered is that all the research and development and a lot of design work has already been done, which would cut costs on a sequel. I also think talk of Jeff Bridges involvement, how old he is going to be when they make it and what his paycheck would be seem very moot to me. With how the movie ended I don't see in what capacity his character could be involved. I felt the film was very clear that it was about Kevin Flynn passing the baton over to his son and that there was nothing left for him to do.
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 Posts: 411 | RE: Do you still think there will be a Tron 3? on Wednesday, November, 23, 2011 4:50 PM
It was in the Marketing that the youth audience was forgotten, not in the movie. Just look at the toys, mostly unplayable. I'm tying to be open minded about this. Tron 3 is coming. Disney will focus on a younger audience for Marketing. Just trust me on this and be patient. No more posts in essay form, please. Arrrg... abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion
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