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This Quote from the interview, " It's hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so it's time to deliver on that. ", should be the focus of discussion. He is talking about the Plot for the next movie. What could it be? And, what "Promise of something" is he talking about, that was in Both movies? I'm lost.

cool83 Wrote:This Quote from the interview, " It's hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so it's time to deliver on that. ", should be the focus of discussion. He is talking about the Plot for the next movie. What could it be? And, what "Promise of something" is he talking about, that was in Both movies? I'm lost.

I just hope to to the Users that Kozinski or the studio execs aren't entertaining the idea of bringing programs out into the real world in which I think the producers of the Tron 2.0 game came real close to doing. I definitely remember that that idea was certainly floating around for this game or the movie sequel in one infamous interview from a couple years ago. I'm trying to remember what the source was, though.

Mr. Jay West, being the journalist himself, might recall?

To be honest, since Tron Sector is one of the oldest and most 'hardcore' Tron site on the internet today, Disney should be listening to US for feedback to keep them in check. After all, most of us were there in the beginning and we know our $--t and lore.

Mr. West should present a petition from us asking Disney to not try to go that 'programs in the real world' approach which is anathemic to the concept. I do understand that Kat and a few of you have written fan fiction based on that premise and that's cool. Keep in mind that the Matrix 2 pulled this using Agent Smith infiltrating the human world as a program inside a human male named Bane.

And that would be absurd considering the story supposedly revolves around that chip and Quorra, along with Sam.


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Pilgrim1099 Wrote: Mr. West should present a petition from us asking Disney to not try to go that 'programs in the real world' approach which is anathemic to the concept. I do understand that Kat and a few of you have written fan fiction based on that premise and that's cool.

Actually, I haven't... unless I'm completely forgetting something. I think it would be a difficult concept; I have trouble with how Q's gonna cope. I'm not sure anyone else here has either, except for Trace.

But hell, I've thought for a long time that we're a resource Disney should milk, both as far as ideas and using forum members as extras in the films. Unfortunately, there are two possibilities:

1. They totally get rich off of our ideas with no credit*
2. They don't use our ideas-- many of which are excellent, if I may say so without being accused of bias-- for fear of a lawsuit. And possibly use crappy ideas instead.

Hopefully there's a middle ground. (LOL, we should have a single sticky thread to make it easy: "Dear Disney..." and everybody can make a post with their own ideas. No discussion or argument to make it hard to read, just everybody who wants to makes a post.)


*and lest you think "but I'd just be thrilled if they used my idea and I wouldn't need credit or payment!" then consider the "disclaimer hoops" fanfic writers always jump through lest some Power That Be decides a lawsuit or a cease-and-desist is in order, or imagine if you wanted to sell your fanfic and how hard they'd come down on you for making money off THEIR idea. I'd be thrilled if they used my ideas too-- naturally I think them quite superior, lol-- but I'd certainly hope the fans would get a shoutout.

LWSrocks2 Wrote:The obvious elephant in the room is the Internet. If they don't touch on the Internet at all in the next movie, I'll be disappointed. So many great opportunities there.

This is what I'm thinking as well.

Also if the next one is their "Empire strikes back" that should mean we are eventually getting a "Return of the Jedi", minus Ewoks hopefully.

Kat Wrote: Pilgrim1099 Wrote: Mr. West should present a petition from us asking Disney to not try to go that 'programs in the real world' approach which is anathemic to the concept. I do understand that Kat and a few of you have written fan fiction based on that premise and that's cool. Actually, I haven't... unless I'm completely forgetting something. I think it would be a difficult concept; I have trouble with how Q's gonna cope. I'm not sure anyone else here has either, except for Trace. But hell, I've thought for a long time that we're a resource Disney should milk, both as far as ideas and using forum members as extras in the films. Unfortunately, there are two possibilities: 1. They totally get rich off of our ideas with no credit* 2. They don't use our ideas-- many of which are excellent, if I may say so without being accused of bias-- for fear of a lawsuit. And possibly use crappy ideas instead. Hopefully there's a middle ground. (LOL, we should have a single sticky thread to make it easy: "Dear Disney..." and everybody can make a post with their own ideas. No discussion or argument to make it hard to read, just everybody who wants to makes a post.) *and lest you think "but I'd just be thrilled if they used my idea and I wouldn't need credit or payment!" then consider the "disclaimer hoops" fanfic writers always jump through lest some Power That Be decides a lawsuit or a cease-and-desist is in order, or imagine if you wanted to sell your fanfic and how hard they'd come down on you for making money off THEIR idea. I'd be thrilled if they used my ideas too-- naturally I think them quite superior, lol-- but I'd certainly hope the fans would get a shoutout.

Kat,

If they do this "Programs in the Real World", the best they can do is have them as holographic programs similar to Cortana in HALO, but not physically going around the real world. Quorra would be the exception as an ISO and I really think that psychologically she'll want to see 'home' again, that is, the Grid.

Besides, Sam and Q have to fix whatever is damaged in the chip and clean the mess up. I just don't want to see Disney do the "Matrix" route.

Kat Wrote: Pilgrim1099 Wrote:If they do this "Programs in the Real World", the best they can do is have them as holographic programs similar to Cortana in HALO, but not physically going around the real world. Quorra would be the exception as an ISO and I really think that psychologically she'll want to see 'home' again, that is, the Grid. Besides, Sam and Q have to fix whatever is damaged in the chip and clean the mess up. I just don't want to see Disney do the "Matrix" route. Frankly, I'd rather they not go that route, period. Personally I think it'd open a can of worms. And I'm sure there are enough avenues for a story without having to complicate things further by adding that dynamic, anyway. And you know I agree with you on Q.

And I agree with that because, like you said, opens a can of worms is that last thing they want to happen. I believe the new writer is trying to figure out how to get from Legacy's ending to something that can be contained and resolved quickly before Sam gets back into the Grid.

And seeing the rest of the episode list on Wiki, I smell a rat.

It seems like things are/may be finally moving fowards... Hopefully we will get word in the near future that pre-production has begun.

I am a bit concerned that he want to re-vamp the "style" of things and not "re use assets from Legacy"... >_> Hopefully it builds upon the visual style of Legacy and includes some more of the visual style of Uprising and 1982 Tron to some degree.

I do pray they involve the character of Tron/Rizler in the main storyline (and is voiced by and face mo-capped by Bruce Boxleitner) vastly more than they did in Tron Legacy.

I agree with those that say they should not bring Programs en masse into the "Real World."

IMO an army of self-aware Programs purposed and lead by central totalitarian "MCP 2" planning to take control of the world's computers via the web/internet, ala "SkyNET" would be far preferable and far more believable.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pill

ShadowDragon1 Wrote: ... IMO an army of self-aware Programs purposed and lead by central totalitarian "MCP 2" planning to take control of the world's computers via the web/internet ...

I second this, as long as we keep the MAJORITY of the story on the Grid. I really loved the original Tron concept where the "real world" was just vaguely pulling the strings, while the storyline was mainly taking down the MCP (or exonerating Flynn/finding hidden data - whatever) with Sark as the bodyguard.

I also like the idea of including the potential of the "Internet" as an extension of the Grid with an MCP2 having the potential to control everything, sort of an extension of EagleEye, controlling phones, cars, toasters, wrist watches, whatever. And a new bad guy/program (Dillinger/Clu/Whoever) being the enforcer. Then Tron and Sam could work on saving things from the inside, and Alan can work on saving things from the outside, mirroring the original Tron movie! This is far better (and I think could be made somewhat believable with the right directing) than bringing programs into the "real world" ISO or not.

This could also make the merging of "new assets" of the original Tron with it's brighter and more colorful world jive better with the black/color scheme of Legacy. If a storyline like this has already been done by a fanfiction author, then I know I am on the right track.

ShadowDragon1 Wrote: ... IMO an army of self-aware Programs purposed and lead by central totalitarian "MCP 2" planning to take control of the world's computers via the web/internet ...

I'm a little burned out on armies being needed in movies. Matrix 2 & 3, Star Wars clones, Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit (e.g., orcs), Tron Legacy army, etc, etc, the list goes on and on. Just because computer graphics can put thousands of people, creatures and spaceships chaotically shooting each other on-screen nowadays, it doesn't mean we should in every action/adventure film. There are other ways to make an engaging story and climax without using an "epic army battle" (or threat thereof) crutch that many films seem to use nowadays. Tron 3 doesn't need an army. I think my main gripe with movie armies is you can tell or it's obvious they're CG, and when the battles occur it's a CG'd chaotic cinematic mess.

Don't get me too wrong, though. I enjoy a good epic CG battle every now and then; just don't like them being overused as they seem to have become. I'm now a little too cognizant of them, and so don't really want one (or a big "army") in Tron 3. They have their time and place.